#22 UNLOCK the UNIVERSE'S SECRETS: Channeler REVEALS how to Master INTUITION and UPGRADE Your Life!

Today we have Rubia Lacerda. Welcome to the show, Rubia.

Rubia Lacerda (14:43.63)

Thank you so much for having me.

Tania (14:46.099)

So tell us Rubia, what was it like before this whole magical journey started for you? What was your life like?

Rubia Lacerda (14:53.378)

I was just living a normal life, you know, and as a... I grew up in Brazil, so that's where I was born. And I was always quite intuitive, so the spiritual side was always there, and the intuition was always there. And I went to university, moved to Australia, and just always putting my intuition and the things I was feeling, sensing, knowing, sometimes seeing to the side. Okay, let's just go be a normal.

Tania (15:07.049)

Mm

Rubia Lacerda (15:22.094)

And that was like my narrative. Until in 2015, I had some events happening in my personal life where I thought, my God, I really want to help people. I want to work with coaching or healing or something like that. And I started studying. So I was living what I say, for lack of a better word, a normal life. But simultaneously,

Tania (15:24.339)

Hmm.

Tania (15:47.102)

Mm

Rubia Lacerda (15:51.169)

the intuition and the spirituality was always there on the side.

Tania (15:56.767)

Hmm. You know, they said that I think it was in the Mayan calendar, they said that things, the old earth is going to end in 2012. And then they just said the time stops at 2012. Do feel like so many people also went through similar situations like major trauma or something around that time?

Rubia Lacerda (16:17.486)

I feel so, I believe that and I also believe it's still been happening and it's been even more since 2020. And it's happening now at an accelerated pace that I've never seen before. We've become a lot more sensitive, we are a lot more aware and we are sensitive on different levels as well, on physical level, like the things that your body used to tolerate, no longer tolerating.

Tania (16:26.046)

Hmm.

Rubia Lacerda (16:43.528)

and situations that we tolerate, behaviors that we tolerate. So we're becoming a lot more sensitive and aware, which is opening up more to connect with this mystical world.

Tania (16:58.909)

Hmm, true. Dolores Cannon had said that time has changed now. Back in the days, time was, she said, like we are less shorter by eight hours or something. I don't exactly remember the numbers, but apparently time has fastened. It's faster right now. And my parents and you know, in our community also, we say that now it's not like before people get karma instantly. Whatever they do, they get karma, instant karma. Do you think something like that has happened to time as well?

Rubia Lacerda (17:29.678)

I have the experiences. remember last year when I was going through a spiritual awakening, I remember this was around, so in September, having a conversation with a friend about we saw each other at the same place in January. And I remember saying to her, that happened years ago. That was not like months ago. That feels like it was three years ago. And it genuinely felt like three years.

So I have been noticing that and have been experiencing that as well. And what you said about, Carla, like things are, I was having that conversation with my mother this morning about, know, certain things that's happening in our family. I said, I don't want to be part of this or this because I feel like this is part, this is not an integrity. I've done so much work on myself for the last few years and I don't want to undo some of that by being part of something that I believe is not an integrity.

which means that I'll have to, you know, I'm gonna pay for that in some way, or form through karma, like I said, and I feel like definitely it's happening faster.

Tania (18:32.499)

Hmm.

Tania (18:38.239)

Sure, completely agree. So what was it like when you, so did you see a vision first or did you hear a voice first? What was that first time something major happened for you? Do you remember?

Rubia Lacerda (18:51.438)

I remember, first I remember around the age of 10, 12, becoming obsessed with extraterrestrial beings and UFOs. And that was, you know, of around 30 years ago. So back in the day, there were no, you know, social media. wasn't really cable TV was just coming out, at least in the countryside of Brazil. So it's not like I was watching anything online that I could get ideas. I just became obsessed with them. So I would go to the bookstore.

Tania (19:00.457)

Hmm.

Rubia Lacerda (19:20.334)

and buy just magazines. And I remember thinking, I want to see them, I want to see them. And I'm so young having these thoughts, you know, as a young teenager. And then between the ages of 14, 16, I started having really vivid dreams. So the dream, like I cannot pinpoint exactly the first time, but the dream that is still very vivid that I remember that happened during that time.

Tania (19:23.465)

Hmm.

Tania (19:39.881)

Hmm.

Rubia Lacerda (19:50.102)

It's me waking up. So I'm sleeping and I wake up and I sit up. And when I sit up on my bed, see in my bed, there was a blonde woman sitting there, which I later discovered it's a hybrid. And we were just having a conversation. And then what would happen is I would then wake up. So what was happening is I was accessing different timelines during my sleep. And they were very real because I was waking up.

Tania (19:55.55)

Mm

Rubia Lacerda (20:19.758)

But then I would wake up in my current reality, physical reality, and then would then call my mother. I would yell out my mother and say she would come into the room. I'll tell her. She would kind of make a joke, you know, about who was there and I would go back to sleep. But I kept having similar dreams often, which was affecting then how I was going at school until I got to a point where my parents noticed and they said, what do you want to do? How can we help you?

Tania (20:24.242)

Mm

Tania (20:36.713)

Hmm.

Rubia Lacerda (20:47.534)

And they had a friend who was a Spiritist with a religion in Brazil that they believe in life before and after death in spirits and mediumship. So I said, can you ask your friend to come here? Because I have a feeling he can help me. So he came with all these books about mediumship, about Spiritism. And he said, you're most likely a medium. And that's why you're having this. Your gifts are being activated at hour 16. So I started reading multiple books, but that's when things really started to heat up. Then I was like,

Tania (20:59.902)

Hmm.

Tania (21:10.835)

Hmm.

Rubia Lacerda (21:17.23)

clairs were activating. And you know, at the time I was going out, partying, drinking on the weekends. So it was, you know, it was a little bit messy. It was all happening.

Tania (21:29.759)

that must have been hard, especially the teenage, all the things, the hormones and all the changes. And then you've got that must have been really crazy. You know, I had a guest who came up on the podcast as well. And she said that she was also once sleeping and she saw this blonde haired woman standing in her room and she freaked out. then she couldn't like.

nothing happened. She went into what is it called body freeze or something where no voice came out, nothing came out. She was just stuck there paralyzed. yeah, she was paralyzed there and her husband was sleeping right next to her. So that shock happened to her. So for you, you were just 16. You had nobody who could understand or talk about these things with you, right? It must have been really traumatizing for you, right? At that point of time.

Rubia Lacerda (22:23.151)

It wasn't as bad. There was so much going on in my life as a teenager and with my family at the time. There was just so much going on. And in Brazil, because of Spiritism being known, it wasn't so taboo. It was taboo for other religions that you would look badly at Spiritism. But because it was there, I didn't feel so out of the norm. Also,

I was very curious about it. I was like, okay, so if I'm a medium, my God, I can talk to spirits. my God, okay. I'm gonna sit here and then outside I'm going to Spiritist Center where they do mediumship practices. They channel the spirits of beings that have passed over, but they're stuck and they can't go to the other side or they're stuck here. They don't accept that their body died, et cetera.

So I started going there at the age of 16 to try and channel, but it was very ego -based. I was very excited and I just wanted to channel so I could tell all my friends that I was channeling spirits. that was a lot of... Yes. And you're that I did have a lot of those freezes and sometimes because I would drink alcohol, which at the time would lower my frequency, a lot going on in my life.

Tania (23:32.612)

to be the cool one.

Rubia Lacerda (23:45.964)

I would then sometimes I could feel the presence of spirits that didn't feel nice. So there were times that it was very scary and it was like, I just want to sleep. I just want to have a peaceful sleep. Sometimes I had to wait until it was morning because then it wasn't dark anymore. I wasn't so afraid then I could sleep. But yes, there were times that it was quite tiring.

Tania (23:50.889)

Mm.

Tania (24:05.353)

Hmm.

Tania (24:10.281)

You know, as a parent, right? I mean, I'm interested in all of these things, really interested, but I'm a big time coward as well. Nighttime? Nope. I'm afraid there would be Pleiadians standing there when I turn off the lights. So then once my daughter said, mom, I can hear something. And I was like, my God, I don't want psychic kids at the moment. I can't deal with it. So I can imagine how much of a, like your parents must have gotten scared, like having to deal with spiritism or.

mediumship all of these things would have been like i don't know do you guys have this terminology called demonic or something

Rubia Lacerda (24:47.554)

Yes, but that's more for like religions, religious people and even though my mother, she was quite Catholic, they didn't really get caught up in those terms. So I was very lucky. She just said when I started going to Spiritism, just don't tell too many people because she didn't want her Catholic friends to find out. But also an interesting thing that happened not only for me, but for my parents is that we were very, we developed because of, you know,

Tania (24:50.961)

religious things.

Tania (24:55.068)

Hmm.

Tania (25:07.187)

Mm.

Rubia Lacerda (25:16.408)

the trauma we develop and in growing up in chaotic environments, we developed a defense mechanism of avoiding difficult things or avoiding or sometimes almost pretending that a problem wasn't there. So we were great avoidance. So we knew that there was something going on, but we were avoiding it with other trauma, with other drama that was happening in our lives, just creating chaos unconsciously and consciously.

Tania (25:30.355)

Hmm.

Rubia Lacerda (25:43.704)

So we knew it was there, but we didn't give too much attention to it because we just, we thought if we avoid it, and especially them, if they avoid it, then it would go away. So instead of creating this big drama about it, my God, there's something wrong with her, they tried to help me the best they could, inviting their friend over, but they also avoided it a lot, which is now I understand as knowing.

Tania (25:55.112)

Hmm.

Rubia Lacerda (26:08.718)

a little bit about nervous system regulation and trauma, that it was a defense mechanism.

Tania (26:15.191)

When you say that, right, this is very common in Indian households as well. When something wrong happens, we know something wrong has happened, we wouldn't talk about it. We would just keep quiet for some time and then we would feed each other food. So, you know, we won't talk about it like our parents, if we had major arguments with our mom and dad, we won't talk about it. Maybe in the nighttime, we'll get really yummy biryani or something. But that trauma is still stuck in us. It's still there.

We've not released it. We've not spoken about it. We just ignored it. And I guess that's why you probably had all of that stuck and why you're so interested in nervous system regulation techniques and all. Can you talk to us more about it and why that is important for Ascension?

Tania (27:06.003)

When did you realize that that is necessary?

Rubia Lacerda (27:09.806)

Great, because I was like, there's so much I can do about it. I love this topic. I was part of a, let's say, was like a leadership, a sanction business school, quite spiritual though, back in 2020, because, know, long story short, I realized I had these gifts, I realized I could channel and I realized that a lot of people wanted to have access to these, wanted to hear me talk more about it.

Tania (27:11.391)

That's like big one.

Rubia Lacerda (27:39.116)

So I joined courses that could support me to how can I translate this to the world? How can I share this with the world? And during these courses, I remember I was trying, I was trying really hard to turn this into a mission where I could share with others and make a living from it so that I could completely leave a nine to five job. For example, at the time for me, I tried to balance both things at the same time. It didn't work.

Tania (28:06.196)

Mm

Rubia Lacerda (28:07.13)

It was too much because it requires so much energy, you know, to learn, to shift, to ascend, to channel. And during these courses, I started to, I remember I was always doing the same thing. Things were never working out for me. And I would see things were always working out, not always, like things were working out for other people. And in my mind, if it's working out for them, it can work out for me. So what is it that I need to do? What is it that I need to become? Who is it that I need to become?

Tania (28:25.757)

Hmm.

Rubia Lacerda (28:33.496)

So during one of these courses, there was a nervous system regulation facilitator that was also talking about the chaotic environments, what happened when you're a child, how that affects you, how then I learned that I was unconsciously creating a chaotic reality where my mission wasn't working, where I wasn't reaching people, because I was unconsciously creating that because that was safe. Because if I expanded where more people saw me, then I was no longer safe. I was exposed.

Tania (28:56.094)

Hmm.

Rubia Lacerda (29:02.456)

which means that I could experience some trauma that I had experienced and chaos during childhood. not expanding, not achieving success, not reaching people meant that I was safe. And I just then became obsessed with all things nervous system regulation because as I started to implement some things and realized that the clients and talking to my unconscious mind, one thing was...

One of my siblings really picked on me when I was a child. now it's okay. But as a child, developed a fear, some type of fear of the unknown and of people, because he would just come out of nowhere and pick on me, right? So when I became aware that this pattern was actually keeping people away from joining my programs, for example. So when someone would inquire about signing up, I would have to have a talk to myself and say, they are safe.

Tania (29:36.435)

Mm -hmm.

Tania (29:43.634)

Hmm.

Rubia Lacerda (29:58.476)

They want to learn from you. They are not like your sibling. They are just here because they want to learn from you. Know that it's safe to allow them into your field. Because I discovered that part of me, I was able to talk to that part. And guess what happened? Then my programs started to fill up. So I started to apply techniques and learning. really nervous system regulation, a huge part of it is making the unconscious conscious so that it's no longer hiding and running your life.

And then techniques such as tapping, moving the body, there are so many techniques. And being aware that what are the patterns that are, what is happening in my life right now and what are some of the dysregulated and unconscious parts of me that are creating these patterns. So that honestly has been life -changing, not only for me, and it's something that I share with the world more now and with my beautiful clients as well.

Tania (30:56.563)

That's beautiful. did you know already that you said that you were attending so many courses and then you got into nervous system regulation techniques and before that you were obsessed with self -help courses and things like that. When did you realize that it's going to go from self -help to nervous system regulation techniques to channeling and something that is so out there? When did you realize that now you're ready to make the shift and come out?

Rubia Lacerda (31:26.606)

I started with the self -help, the self -development and the spirituality for many years. Then the channeling came online. The channeling was always there. I just wasn't allowing them to come through and I wasn't talking to people about it. Then when the channeling started to come out in 2020, I realized that, okay, that I was guided by the beams of light that I was channeling to watch certain things on, know, Gaia TV. There were certain things that I had to receive.

Tania (31:38.676)

Mm.

Rubia Lacerda (31:54.966)

so that they could channel and I could speak certain things that they wanted to speak through me. And I continued doing the self -help because I realized that I could only put myself out there and put the message of the beings that I was channeling out there, depending on who I was being. So if I had fear of people judging me, if I had fear of dying, if I had fear of...

Tania (31:59.956)

Hmm.

Rubia Lacerda (32:18.03)

Any types of fear of scarcity, of not working at a job and then how am going to do this? my God, how am going to provide for myself? I never did that this way. Those fears would block me. So I knew I had to work on them. And through doing that work is that then the nervous system regulation came. And now it's a combination of all of it, if that makes sense.

Tania (32:31.827)

Mm

Tania (32:40.703)

That makes sense. You know, if you realize, I don't know if it's just me who noticed this, but after COVID happened from 2022 onwards, all of Instagram, there was a hype on self development and hustling. Everybody was trying to make money and hustle and start something on their own. And so everyone was in that grind to learn from the top people. Right.

how to make money, how to do marketing, how to get over, how to become confident, how to show up online and talk and learn marketing and all of that. And then somewhere along the shift happened from hustling to the soft girl era, where now we are into that receiving mode and being feminine. And I think probably that's when this channeling thing came up. What are your thoughts on that?

Rubia Lacerda (33:31.214)

As you're saying that interesting because I noticed the same thing. I noticed that there will be some trends as well. And there's some certain things that will become trending. So the hustling was more and now it's more the feminine. And what happens is we have to be so careful what we are allowing ourselves to consume and receive as we are, especially through social media or YouTube that we are receiving because we...

we're being programmed to, okay, with the trends. And I've got caught up in certain trends, you know, and this is the right way. This is the way to do it. And now having a lot more discernment about what, you know, what I'm allowing to come through and even what I'm sharing with others, really giving people the ability to decide. Usually when I channel, I'm bringing some form of channeled information. I always say, if it resonates, take it. If it doesn't leave it.

Tania (34:03.209)

Mm.

Tania (34:12.095)

Hmm.

Rubia Lacerda (34:29.73)

so that people are able to have a certain way to what rings true for them.

Tania (34:36.064)

That makes sense. Have you ever done a past life regression where you know what your soul contract is, what your mission is in this life?

Rubia Lacerda (34:45.434)

Not necessarily. I have done past life regression where I saw a past life. And I also had to pass the life regression on myself for a course that I was doing as an experiment that we were doing. We had to do an assignment and it was lots of fun. But what I have done, I have connected with future versions of myself. We have showed me my mission. Well, they showed me

Tania (34:51.006)

Hmm.

Tania (35:09.897)

Mm.

Rubia Lacerda (35:14.968)

First of all, they said you have a choice. And these are some of the things that can happen if you take on this path. If you don't take on this path, it's okay because you get to choose, you have free will. But there is a chance that you may get quite depressed because you're so passionate and you love helping people. But go and do it, you will know. And I understand that because I was getting quite sad, like I was getting quite depressed before I started doing this work because I remember thinking, this can't be it.

This can't be it. I can't want to do more. How can I help people? I just can't do this anymore. So it made sense. So when I was receiving information from my future self, I was also seeing my mission quite into the future. So in 2020, I was seeing 2023, 2024, not specifically, but I was getting a feeling and I was getting some of the things like featuring in podcasts and co -creating with certain people. And there was a part of me that thought...

Tania (35:44.511)

Hmm.

Rubia Lacerda (36:14.176)

Okay, that's impossible. But there was the part of me that always goes forward that was like, okay, if other people, that was always the thing. If there's people out there doing, I can do it too. Like, how could I not? It's a recipe. I'm going to follow their recipe. I'm going to follow many recipes and one of them is going to work out. Of course, it's in integrity and it's in alignment with what I was being called to do. And yes, I have been shown some things quite specifically about my mission.

but by future self, by past life aggression.

Tania (36:48.179)

That's good that you're not looking in the past. I've watched this crazy cool video of yours where you said you were sitting in your bedroom and then you saw someone come and give you a vision. Can you talk about that?

Rubia Lacerda (36:59.214)

There's a couple of issues that, you know, of stories that I shared when I was in my bedroom. One of them was when I saw this Arcturian goddess that who says it's me in the future, showing this timeline of me, which was now showing to me back in 2020 when nothing was working out. I was releasing programs and courses. I was so excited to share with the world. I put it out there and crickets. No one would sign up. But the thing is, I would then understand. would then, I remember thinking,

I would tune in and say, okay, everyone, what's happening here? And I would receive that I was being initiated by the programs I was launching. So it wasn't for people, it was for me. So every time I launched the program, I had to embody the things I was claiming that I was going to teach. And I was being taken through initiations. So I saw it that way instead of saying I'm failing. For me, was never a failure. For me, it was never, okay, it was always, okay, what is this teaching me?

Tania (37:37.108)

Hmm.

Tania (37:45.266)

Hmm.

Rubia Lacerda (37:55.854)

And then I saw that if I kept going, eventually things were going to work out when I was ready to be facilitating for people. And so that was really helpful seeing this future version of me. And then the other one was really, really interesting. I was just lying in bed doing a future self -connection and I connected with me now. So 2023, I would say 23, 24 was connected to 2020 Rubia. So I remember lying in bed and I was visualizing and there was a whole thing of

Tania (38:15.508)

Yeah.

Rubia Lacerda (38:24.878)

How do I look like? How do I walk like? How do I talk like? What was I wearing at the time? I didn't really wear any jewelry. It was a bit different. There was nothing wrong with who I was being and then who I chose to be. But I remember seeing this Rubia, she looked a little bit more well presented, let's say, Rubia now. And then I saw her.

Tania (38:40.467)

Hmm.

Rubia Lacerda (38:52.396)

And then she came in, she looked into my eyes, I was lying in bed and I'm seeing this through my third eye vision like a guided meditation. And she just said, said, okay, give me a message. I was like, now she's gonna give me this incredible message, gonna tell me everything I need to do and I'm gonna have all the answers. And she said, keep going. I was like, good.

Tania (39:01.556)

Mm.

Tania (39:12.132)

Pro -pound.

Rubia Lacerda (39:14.702)

And what I was seeing, he was like, okay, how do I become that Ruby? Okay, so I need to buy new clothes. I need to start presenting myself to the world like she is. And then her message made sense. It kept making sense for years because there were many times that I just wanted to give up. I am done with this. I looked for jobs and I said, I worked with admin at the time in offices and

Tania (39:32.893)

Hmm.

Rubia Lacerda (39:43.628)

I remember looking for jobs and I remember trying everything. You know what? I'm just going to give this up. This is way too hard. And then I would remember her words, so simple yet so powerful that allowed me to stay on the spot. And then later on, I understood from her that I wasn't ready to see and know everything that I am experiencing now.

Tania (39:49.843)

Hmm.

Rubia Lacerda (40:09.846)

So if I told her, if she knew that past Rubia, or at the time, present Rubia knew that she was going to be featuring, let's say, in globally known podcast, she would have freaked out because she didn't feel good enough, she didn't feel ready enough, she didn't feel like she a fault. She would have all these reasons, my God, my God, my God, I'm not ready, I'm not ready. She would freak out. So now that's why I trust so much in the intuitive nudges there.

come through. So not an understanding that you don't need big messages. If you understand depth of short messages, you really open yourself up to receive.

Tania (40:52.243)

What you said is really true because when, I don't know if I'm channeling, but I tried to sit in meditation and ask questions myself. once I asked to God, how can I connect with you more? And the answer that came through was, you're already connected. Right? And then there's, it's like very simple messages, but it's something that I wouldn't say to myself, I was conscious.

And when you said that things weren't working out in 2021, you know, it was for me. So 2020 Instagram was filled with be a coach. You can be a coach. Right? Do you remember that time? was like, huh? Six, my God, six figures, seven figures. And I'm here sitting with one figure and I'm like, why am I?

Rubia Lacerda (41:30.254)

Six feet and seven figures!

Tania (41:41.703)

Be a coach, could be a coach. was Vanessa Lau, Amy Porterfield, Jessica Starr, mean, Jasmine Starr, like all of these people. And I would sign up for all of their newsletters and they're making six figures every day. you know, like nothing was happening for me. And I kept doing everything that they said, right? So there's all of these things that they say, the BGA method, you show client what is their A to B and then B to C.

And I also didn't make any money, but I was working really hard. Yeah. Finally, I watched this. So again, like you said, I kept buying courses after courses, after courses to get to my six figures and it didn't work. Then I came, bought this one course by Amy Porterfield, which said that there's no point in trying to sell when you don't have a long form content platform to get email IDs. So I was spending my time on Instagram. Then when I realized that, okay, so you need like a long form thing.

and I don't have a long form thing yet. So I stopped coaching, which was good. Then two years, I didn't do anything and I just got back to find out what do I want. And I think by then all the coaches also kind of stopped making noise. think they took breaks, some of them, all that stuff happened. So when you say that you were going and taking these courses, when you look back, those courses were for you, for you to go through those initiations, that made total sense to me.

So when you do channeling, what are some of the messages, like one of the most common messages that comes through too for you?

Rubia Lacerda (43:16.11)

For me.

Tania (43:17.951)

Rubia Lacerda (43:21.472)

You ask, let me tune in, what do I usually get?

remember that everything is always working out for you. There is a purpose to things because sometimes things don't work out like currently I'm traveling there were some things that I was planning that we was all like okay this is exciting it's gonna happen then didn't happen and there was a part of me that really wanted certain things to happen and when I tune in and I say okay what is there things are always working out for you.

Tania (43:42.163)

Hmm.

Rubia Lacerda (43:53.452)

So it's like the messages are always me being tested on testing me to see if I am walking my talk because I am constantly telling people to trust themselves and trust intuition, trust what they're receiving. Doubt their doubts instead of doubting themselves or doubting that what's happening in their lives, it's just perfect. And it's pointing that even if it's painful, how is pain pointing you in the direction of

less pain and more love and are you listening to that and taking the aligned action? So for me, it's like it really is you are on the right path. Things are always working out for you and reminders. I also get reminders. Okay, take the action. So launching a program. So when I launched the program, I'm like, am I fully ready to launch this program? I instantly get, yes, you are. Stop being a perfectionist. It's like I get messages like that. So it's almost like I have a coach in the form of

Tania (44:45.918)

Rubia Lacerda (44:51.874)

you know, a channel.

Tania (44:54.417)

Isn't that amazing? So when you ask them questions, right? Or let's say when you're doing channeling for your audience, for your clients, have there been any instances where it was like profound and then you think, wow, is that anything that you remember?

Rubia Lacerda (45:11.992)

So I always, when I channel, always remember, it's like, I take the back seat, so they're having a conversation and I'm listening to the conversation and I'm like, wow. And I am experiencing the channeling. I, I trans -channeled for a couple recently and I know them and it was incredible because I could feel their connection. I could feel how they were receiving the message. I could feel their emotions.

Tania (45:19.006)

Hmm.

Rubia Lacerda (45:38.242)

their connection with the Arcturians and then afterwards and so during the conversation and after as well reflecting on what the Arcturians were saying I was wow that is life -changing that is just incredible I don't I cannot remember one time that I no actually I can most times that I channel the Arcturians or that I channel the beings of light I am always wow

Tania (45:44.638)

Hmm.

Rubia Lacerda (46:06.882)

by what comes through and how supports people. And most of the time they're simple things. They're just the way that they talk, the way that they show people, like they shift the lenses that people are using to see their reality. They're able to support them, have a paradigm shift or a shift in perception. And the only times that I can remember that I wasn't wowed is because the person who was receiving the message, they were...

Tania (46:13.907)

Yeah.

Tania (46:33.331)

Hmm.

Rubia Lacerda (46:34.67)

They wanted a magic pill and they basically wanted the accrues to tell them exactly what steps to take in You know, whatever it is that they wanted So it was hard for the accrues to speak to them because they were trying to show them the gifts in what was happening to them and show them that then Giving them an answer for them to go out there and take action was actually not going to fix their problems. It was just going to be

If anything didn't work out, they were going to come back and say, well, the archivist told me to move countries and I did and it didn't work out, therefore it's their fault. And they weren't going to take responsibility for the actions they were taking. So usually it really depends. So I'm very careful like with, you know, when it comes to channeling, it's a reason why I charge more for it. It's the service that I charge the most is the trans channeling because I had a lot of experiences when it was a lot cheaper. What would happen is

Tania (47:10.162)

Hmm.

Tania (47:22.068)

Hmm.

Rubia Lacerda (47:27.05)

they were having like quite more mundane basic conversations where it was exhausting for me to be channeling that type of work. So now I have a lot more reverence for it and it's not like a psychic reading or like a let's look into the future kind of thing. It really is for people that want to expand and evolve and like fully open to receiving the answers and the message that they have to bring through rather than...

Tania (47:34.109)

Hmm.

Tania (47:38.579)

Mm

Rubia Lacerda (47:55.704)

Just give me a magic pill and fix my reality and tell me one, two, three, four steps that I need to take so that everything's gonna be okay.

Tania (48:03.379)

Hmm, that makes sense because you know, I asked this question once while I'm sitting in meditation. How do I know if I'm channelling? I'll ask you that question later. But once I was sitting in this meditation, I asked, should I move country? Where should I move to? And the answer that came through was, where do you want to move to? I'm like, tell me something. So I said, Qatar? And then they said, do you want to move to Qatar? No.

So it's like, I don't get, you know, I understand when you say that they never tell, yeah, you have to stop. Yes, you have to do this. It's never, it's never hardcore answers. It's more like, I think they're more like trying to make you tap into your own intuition, right?

Rubia Lacerda (48:53.582)

100%. So usually with 101 sessions, more like when I channel in podcasts, it's a little bit different, but usually 101 sessions, people come with their personal life and they ask questions and they do exactly what you just said. They say, what is it that you want? Do you want to move? Okay. Where do you want to move? They say, close your eyes, tune into your heart. And what does your heart say? So they usually ask questions back. There is something that happens when you channel like when you're your meditation experience for what you're saying.

Tania (49:00.467)

Hmm.

Tania (49:18.601)

Hmm.

Rubia Lacerda (49:23.52)

It's like you tap into the field, like you're more connected. It's like your logical mind is not so present trying to nitpick everything that is happening there and you're able to receive these messages that you're receiving, like when you meditate and sounds like when you're channeling.

Tania (49:39.647)

When the clients come to you and they want to ask you questions, what kind of questions would be more appropriate for them to ask?

Tania (49:51.805)

Like you said that asking you, should I move countries or should I do that is probably not worth it, but there are people who ask you sole evolution kind of questions. What do you mean by that?

Rubia Lacerda (50:04.92)

So I wouldn't even say the questions that they ask, but the intention that they have. What is their intention for having a session? And I have offered what I call soul blueprint readings in the past. I took that down because I could notice that the majority of people were like, give me all the answers. So my favorite is to take people through breakthroughs. So when people come to like for a session, work with me, whatever way, or form, even having a conversation like with friends and family.

Tania (50:08.893)

Hmm.

Tania (50:23.591)

Hmm.

Rubia Lacerda (50:34.952)

is what is the intention to have that conversation? And for them it's like, okay, I want to activate my mission. Like I have these gifts, I have these abilities, I love helping people, but I don't know how to... I am afraid if I start sharing on social media about what I do, what I love, I'm going to be judged. People think I'm crazy. My family is going to... I'm going to be excluded out of the pack because that's a deep fear.

on a conscious and on unconscious level. So that's the intention. So it's more like if people have that intention. And I've had people contact me and say, I would love to have a session with you. And I say, can you please tell me why? So I don't send them a link and book here. Please tell me why to have a session. And depending on what they say, I have said to people, look, I recommend you go and look for a psychic, for example. That is not something I can help you because they wanted answers. But then I say, look, if you like to get to the root cause of

Tania (51:19.689)

Hmm.

Rubia Lacerda (51:34.284)

why you have been trying, let's say for two years, to put your mission into practice, but you haven't been able to, I can help you with that. And I feel like that's going to be much more effective than me just telling you that you're a beautiful soul, that you're amazing, you have a fantastic mission on the planet, and humanity is waiting for you to come out, because when you have readings, you will hear that stuff. And sometimes people get a little bit addicted to readings because it really boosts up their ego.

Tania (51:56.937)

Hmm.

Rubia Lacerda (52:01.24)

but it's not getting, a lot of the times, it's not getting to the root cause of why they're not doing the thing that they've been wanting to do for.

Tania (52:09.363)

Hmm, that does make sense. You know, I was reading this book called The Kabalyan. Have you heard of that book? Okay, so... Are you listening to the book too? What?

Rubia Lacerda (52:16.076)

Yes, I'm listening.

Rubia Lacerda (52:21.238)

Yeah, I have an audiobook version. Yes.

Tania (52:24.445)

Me too, on Audible. So there is a free version. What is, this is crazy. Yeah, so I'm listening to that book and the book talks about how back in the days people used to have, they used to learn in depth about laws of the universe. And when we right now have a lot of mystery schools and stuff like that, do they teach about these laws of the universe? Do you think we would ever have someone like taught or?

Isis or Yeshua come again on the planet to teach these things in our time.

Rubia Lacerda (53:00.981)

Good question. I feel like...

We could, I can't sense that it's happening anytime soon, but what is happening is there are a lot more channelers, people having their channeling gifts activated and people that are doing what I'm doing. So I went public, I've gone public and I talk about this globally. There's people that are talking on to this, only to their circles, like they don't want to expose themselves, whatever it is.

Tania (53:11.198)

Hmm.

Tania (53:21.918)

Mm.

Tania (53:26.751)

Hmm.

Rubia Lacerda (53:35.406)

People's abilities are being activated like never before. the information from Jesus, ISIS, information that they share is coming through us on an individual level.

Tania (53:39.731)

Hmm.

Tania (53:48.159)

So what do you think now you're channeling? Do you ever aspire to be someone like Yeshua or Isis or Thoth or Buddha?

You know, one of the Chandlers said, Daniel Scranton, he said that, we don't want another Buddha. We don't want another Yashua. We want someone new. And I'm like, wow, look how they just, you know, spoke about, I think it was the Arturians probably saying that, you know, we don't want another. I'm like, cool. I could be someone different too. So when you do our channeling, do you, like, what is your goal? You know, in our career we have, okay, from here, I want to be a manager, then I want to be a director.

Rubia Lacerda (54:13.955)

Yeah.

Tania (54:31.335)

Are there any stages like that in channeling? Because you say that they're always putting you through tests. What are they testing you for? What levels are you going to go to?

Rubia Lacerda (54:41.42)

And I like to say they are supporting me through the tests and they are showing me because I feel like my soul has chosen to go through, you know, whatever it is that I'm going through. And the biggest tests are always on the things that I teach. So if I talk about talking ascension, I am going to be tested on how is my ascension going. If I start teaching about nervous system regulation, inhaling the inner child,

Tania (54:51.551)

Hmm.

Rubia Lacerda (55:08.718)

healing your relationship with your family, whatever it is, I get tested on those very things. So those are the things that I usually get tested on. like the goal, as you said, where do I want to get? Like my biggest goal is to really, truly support as many humans on the planet as possible to activate higher timelines of existence. What do I mean by that? It's to...

believing on a timeline where they are living a life where they know, they believe, they feel that they can be, do and have it all. And it's a timeline of more peace, of more unity, where they're living their dream life. So some would call the new earth, some would call the fifth dimension. So it's a lot of the density that we see, you know, and I have...

There's a lot of density that I no longer see, that I no longer experience because we are already activating these timelines so we can be living side by side with someone that's living on a completely different timeline. So we are already activating that. I've activated so much of that in my life and I saw the possibilities and I'm like that excited child that just found a magical garden just behind their backyard and I'm like, my God, everyone, and I come out, guys, you all need to come and see this magical garden.

It's like amazing. And in my case, it's like, my God, I can support humanity. I can truly create my reality where I can travel the world, helping people online and helping other people to do the same. And that is my biggest goal. And for me, it's so important that it's being done with love and with integrity. Because like you said, back like what happened in 2020 with all the coaches, the six figures, the seven figures.

Making money is not a problem. Money is fantastic because it's a vehicle to create a lot of these realities. The problem is a lot of people were using their gifts and their abilities to manipulate people so that then they could make the six figures, the seven figures. So for me, it may be a little bit of more slower path. It has been a slow path for me, but it has been a path of integrity.

Tania (57:13.459)

Yeah.

Tania (57:23.123)

No, at that time also there were so many people, I mean, we would compare with each other and then there were people who were not making six figures just posting that they make six figures. So there was a lot of manipulation, a lot of lies spread on Instagram as well, which was definitely toxic. You know, when you channel, I'm going to ask them if if Rubia can become another Buddha, what do you think? Let's see what, let's see. You already said no, but they're going to say obviously Rubia is.

Another Budo. That would be...

Rubia Lacerda (57:56.024)

It's funny to say that because when I had a spiritual awakening last year, so last year I had many names, Dark Night of Souls, Spiritual Awakening, that was mid -2023, Midlife Crisis, whatever it is that, you know, there's different names for it. I remember I was blown open, so I was very open. My gifts were activated to levels that...

Tania (58:12.279)

midlife crisis too.

Rubia Lacerda (58:24.918)

felt like too much. And I remember one day walking on the beach, feeling everything, seeing everything, knowing everything. And I felt like I had the wisdom and the knowledge, embodied wisdom and knowledge of a Buddha. That's what came through for me. And I remember thinking, I do not have the foundation right now, the structure to hold this amount of wisdom and knowledge. Like I feel like I'm going to go crazy. It's too much.

Tania (58:26.824)

Hmm.

Tania (58:36.466)

Hmm.

Rubia Lacerda (58:53.228)

I just can't hold this right now. So I had to live with it on and off. It would just happen in different stages, different levels. And then that's when I really discovered the importance of building a really strong foundation and being grounded on this earth and regulating my nervous system and dealing with whatever trauma I had to deal so that I could hold that level of wisdom.

Tania (58:53.481)

Hmm.

Rubia Lacerda (59:19.244)

And if you ask me that prior to spiritual awakening, I would probably be like, yes, I would love to be like a Buddha and like a Jesus. And now, because I had a glimpse of it, which wasn't in the best of the situations because I was blown open and everything was too much and my life is falling apart. I thought I was going to die many times. I didn't think I was going to make it. And now I have a lot more reverence for it and I see the seriousness of it. I'm like, whoa.

Tania (59:29.16)

Hmm.

Rubia Lacerda (59:49.4)

Who do I need to become to hold that amount of wisdom and what do I need to let go of in my physical material life to hold that? So I see it from that perspective. So it's interesting that you've touched on that subject because I haven't spoken much about it.

Tania (01:00:07.219)

When you said that you went through death so many times, Vikrant is someone who apparently learned under Osho and Osho calls himself enlightened, I think. I don't understand what exactly enlightened meaning, but probably you said that you got this glimpse of what Buddha must have seen. And what Vikrant says is that, because at one point I was pursuing enlightenment, like Yashwar Buddha, because I got...

tired of just getting little bits of information from channelers. I'm like, I just want it all. I want to like graduate, get over it, you know? And then Vikrant said that once you get to know everything, your ego dies, then you become nothing. And then it's just a dead body that's walking because it's like, it's no longer Tanya with the ego, you know, the one who is sitting here in Dubai. And it's none of that. You realize that you're all of it.

Is that what you mean by you feeling like you went through multiple deaths? Is it the ego that you're talking about?

Rubia Lacerda (01:01:09.46)

More when I mean about dying, I thought I was going to die. Like I physically thought my body, I'm gonna die. I'm not gonna exist anymore because there were more, like I was just, it was just too much. I thought my body, my consciousness, my mind cannot handle this. But what was happening, what I was experiencing was I understood on an embodied level, many of the concepts that I have been learning for many, many years.

Tania (01:01:20.372)

Hmm.

Rubia Lacerda (01:01:35.062)

I understood on an embodied level that I am truly the creator of my reality, that I could just do this and certain things would happen. I understood the power of my consciousness and how I could materialize and manifest anything. I was in so much fear at the time that I didn't even try, but I understood that I could. And in that understanding,

Tania (01:01:35.23)

Hmm.

Rubia Lacerda (01:02:02.03)

I remember clearly walking on the beach where I live in Australia. And I was like, wow, I understood it all. then nothing, then things stopped making sense. And then, and then I was like, okay, so what's the point then? Now I understood. There's no, I can do be have anything I want in a click of a fingers. What is the point? So life became.

Tania (01:02:19.732)

Hmm.

Rubia Lacerda (01:02:30.732)

that moment as I was having that realization, boring. I was like, okay, wow. So what now? And I then I thought, okay, and then a waterfall of information started to come to me. Okay, now understand, because I have been working with like DNA reprogramming, reprogramming of like the conscious, the unconscious mind and how we can remove programs that are not serving, download programs that do serve. And in that moment I understood

Tania (01:02:34.065)

Hmm.

Tania (01:02:38.088)

Hmm.

Rubia Lacerda (01:02:59.81)

why we, why humans are so addicted to their problems and their conflicts and their suffering because it gives meaning to their life. Because in that moment, I had all the answers and I knew I could fix anything at any time. And then life became very boring. I was like, I can be anywhere right now. I can buy anything right now. I can do anything right now. And then I thought, wow. So it gave me a much deeper understanding of how

Tania (01:03:06.856)

Yeah.

Rubia Lacerda (01:03:28.952)

humans function and why.

Tania (01:03:31.977)

That is beautiful when you said that this is why, because it gives them meaning when they're addicted to their, when there are problems in life, because it makes me remember there's one point where I want to do the podcast. I love doing the podcast. I love speaking to people like you and having these conversations. But then I also have work full time and I keep thinking, why are we doing these Excel sheets and talking about this freight and forwarder? Cause I say I'm in supply chain. And then I realized I'm just going to quit and do this full time.

And then I just imagined me quitting and suddenly it became a little bit boring. I'm like, there's no one to fight with anymore. There's no deadlines, no performance reviews. It's just this thing. So it's like, okay, fun. Let's do it for fun. So I understand when you say that.

Rubia Lacerda (01:04:19.309)

Yes, and I love that.

Tania (01:04:21.415)

Yeah, so who all do you channel? You said now you predominantly channel the Arturians, but before that you were channeling so many different people, right? I mean entities.

Rubia Lacerda (01:04:31.766)

channel the Pleiadians, the Fila and Lyrons. There's a 12D family of light, that's how they call themselves, they're quite mysterious, that sometimes comes through when I do certain activations. And there's a Pleiadian priestess that's like a decoder. But the Arcturians are more the, let's say, if we agree that we're going to channel on a podcast, for example, or if clients, someone comes, wants to have a session,

It's the ones that I've like, we've made an agreement with each other that they're the ones that I'm going to predominantly channel. Sometimes others may make an appearance for the purpose of like the pliating priestess. She is a decoder or she supports with decoding programs that are no longer serving people to remove those programs, download new ones. And she's quite, and she does that to a broader level that I could do it on a human level.

Tania (01:05:22.942)

Mm

Tania (01:05:31.475)

That's interesting. So what is your process like when you channel?

Rubia Lacerda (01:05:36.782)

So usually I... Usually, I always... So I close my eyes and it's like I go into a meditative state, but it's really interesting when I know that I'm going to channel and let's say if we talked about me channeling, I knew that I was going to channel as soon as I go, okay, I'm going to channel now. I close my eyes and they're already there.

So I take a few deep breaths to open my space to allow the arteries to come through. And then what happens is it gets really quiet and sometimes I can feel like my, it's like I'm experiencing my face changing. It's like I experience being a different being. And my consciousness takes the back seat and then my body moves in different ways as well. I start usually doing this for some reason.

Tania (01:06:19.848)

Hmm.

Rubia Lacerda (01:06:33.79)

And when they come through, it's like I'm in the back. It's like I'm listening to a conversation that they're having. I don't really have control. I don't have control what they say. And what happens, which is very interesting, I think I touched on earlier, is that I am experiencing the channeling and I'm experiencing the dynamics and the things that are happening. And I see some of the things they're experiencing, they explain to people.

Tania (01:06:34.046)

Hmm.

Tania (01:07:02.419)

Mm.

Rubia Lacerda (01:07:02.464)

I can visually see some of the things that they are explaining.

Tania (01:07:08.232)

So even after you explain, even after you do the channeling, maybe you will be able to explain better because you see the visions. While trans -channeling itself, you would be able to explain the visions you see. Can you interrupt their teachings in between to explain? No, okay.

Rubia Lacerda (01:07:25.954)

No. No, the reason why I say no, because I know that some people do that, but it's because I'm in a deep state. I'm in a deep state, kind of like Bashar. think Bashar, their anchor, it's out. I'm not sure he remembers. He goes quite deep, but I go to quite a deep state that then I come out. And there has been times where people have asked questions or they want someone recently asked, what do I do with my anxiety? And they just said,

Tania (01:07:30.996)

Yeah.

Tania (01:07:36.189)

Hmm.

Rubia Lacerda (01:07:54.648)

please have this conversation with Rubia afterwards, because it was just something that I could explain. It was like they knew that I was going to be able to tune in and tell the what to do. And it was nervous system related, which is something that they didn't need to go deep on. So they do that sometimes.

Tania (01:08:03.294)

Hmm.

Tania (01:08:11.111)

Okay, that is beautiful. Do you think we can have a channeling session today?

Hehehehehe

Rubia Lacerda (01:08:17.038)

Let me tell you, I didn't prepare for channeling.

Tania (01:08:25.805)

is it? sorry. No, I thought we would be channeling. Would you be able to do it? If not, I don't want to force you.

Rubia Lacerda (01:08:32.046)

Let me tune in.

Rubia Lacerda (01:08:43.618)

And then if you need, you can edit this part, can't you?

Tania (01:08:47.422)

Yeah, yeah, I can.

Rubia Lacerda (01:08:50.09)

No, because I just want to take my time to tune in.

Tania (01:08:55.613)

Yeah, it's okay, you can take your time.

Rubia Lacerda (01:09:00.334)

If I channeled, there anything, what would be your goal with the channeling?

Tania (01:09:07.763)

So I would be asking questions that would be related to what people would want to hear. It would be more like, how can we get through jealousy or how can we overcome addictions? How can we overcome greed? Things like that. Questions like that.

Rubia Lacerda (01:09:31.704)

How does it sound, because what I do, I usually try not to channel more than once a week, because I channeled them a couple of days ago. It can be a bit tight. How does it sound if I bring through their messages without going through a trance state?

Tania (01:09:41.214)

Hmm.

Tania (01:09:50.963)

Yeah, that is alright. What would be the difference?

Rubia Lacerda (01:09:59.498)

It's like a translator. Imagine if you're in a room and you're talking to someone in different language and then translating.

Tania (01:10:08.299)

Okay, so there are two different kinds of channeling that I've seen or heard of. One is the Trans -Standing and then the Verbal Channeling. So you're talking about the Verbal Channeling. Alright, okay. Okay, so can I start asking or you'd be able to, do you have to do anything else?

Rubia Lacerda (01:10:16.77)

Yes, yes.

Rubia Lacerda (01:10:32.224)

No, no we can start. That was just switching someone.

Tania (01:10:36.191)

Sure.

Rubia Lacerda (01:10:38.072)

you

Rubia Lacerda (01:10:45.73)

And if you like to explain, you know, what we're doing, how we're doing.

Tania (01:10:50.483)

Yeah.

Rubia Lacerda (01:10:51.842)

or ask me and I can explain.

Tania (01:10:53.759)

Right, okay. So you could tell me what is happening right now. Is it, how does it come through? Is it voices or visions or what is it when I ask questions? And also, who are the Arcturians to, maybe I will ask the Arcturians to explain who they are.

Rubia Lacerda (01:11:10.702)

Sorry, can you ask your question again? What would you like me to explain?

Tania (01:11:17.049)

No, you could just tell, what is the process like right now when you're doing verbal channeling? What are we doing right now? Yeah.

Rubia Lacerda (01:11:27.41)

So when it comes to channeling the message of Arcturus without going into a trance state, as they are, because what happens is whenever I'm in a space where I'm talking about them and I'm talking about channeling, they always join. They're like, you know, like your spirit team, I talk about join. So they are present. And when I'm doing a channeling without going into a trance state, is I close, like, let's say they have a question.

Tania (01:11:45.684)

Mm.

Rubia Lacerda (01:11:55.02)

I close my eyes and as you ask a question, will be like, they will be passing on information and I'll be speaking the information. So it's me. It's like my voice is not changing. I'm not going to a trance state. So I'm speaking the information, passing on the information that they're passing on information they passed to me. I pass that on. I will speak the information, but it will be more like me rather than me going to a trance state and bringing through their message.

Tania (01:12:06.708)

Hmm.

Rubia Lacerda (01:12:21.47)

And the reason why I do that a lot of the times is because I channel since I went through the spiritual awakening last year, because I've gone through many phases with trans channeling and I have fried myself before trans channeling too much. it's a lot of the times because I didn't know how to say no. Like I would be like, would be like, OK, I need to do it because people are asking. So for me, like building that boundaries with them and like with people as well has been huge.

Tania (01:12:21.534)

Mm

Tania (01:12:35.495)

Hmm.

Tania (01:12:41.053)

Hmm.

Tania (01:12:50.942)

Hmm.

Rubia Lacerda (01:12:50.998)

And I love it as well because it shows people anyone can channel. So like for some people, they're like, I can't go into a trust stage because I'm afraid, I'm scared what's going to happen, know, who's going to come up. but they can, anyone is able to tune in and bring through messages, whether from beings of light, from the higher self, from their soul, from the intuition, from what their body's saying. So we are all able to do it.

Tania (01:12:56.617)

Hmm.

Rubia Lacerda (01:13:20.396)

And I love doing it because it's like I'm doing a demonstration of how to do it without going to a trance state. Because full transparency, what I've experienced as a trance channel is that a lot of people put trance channeling on a pedestal and trance channels on a pedestal as well, which creates a certain level of separation and hierarchy. Okay, Ruby channel, she's here. I don't, I'm here. She has more...

Tania (01:13:31.842)

Mm

Tania (01:13:35.935)

Sure.

Tania (01:13:42.386)

Yeah.

Rubia Lacerda (01:13:47.404)

She has more access, I don't know. We all just have different types of access.

Tania (01:13:49.374)

Yeah.

True, so this would be a good thing to do as well. Like you said, we do think that trans -channelers are, we do put them on a pedestal and then we are free to ask questions and all of that. So this is one way you could understand where any questions you ask before you respond, if you just take a moment, take a few breaths and tap in, you would be able to get the answers yourself as well. Okay.

Rubia Lacerda (01:14:16.982)

And I would love to invite everyone that is listening to practice that and you will be so surprised at what you receive and make that a practice. I would say so surprised that you are going to receive, but there is one key, very important key for that to work is that you trust what you receive and know that your imagination is the portal to allowing these messages to receive. There's no such thing, am I making it up? Let go of the narrative, am I making it up? Because it's...

Tania (01:14:40.454)

Mm

Rubia Lacerda (01:14:46.85)

blocking you from receiving incredible guidance from your higher self, your soul, your spirit.

Tania (01:14:54.848)

All right. Okay, so I will begin by asking them my first question, which is, what does fundamental religion do to consciousness?

Rubia Lacerda (01:15:13.182)

So what I'm receiving is that fundamental religion has a role. It has a role to plant seeds into human's consciousness, to wake a lot of people up to the next level of their ascension. So it is there to open people up, to show that there's something beyond. And like most things on planet Earth, there is a duality. So there's the side where people will then have the free will if they want to take it to a path.

of light, of love and of ascension or to a path of this is wrong, this is right, I am right, you are wrong. So there is a role, but it depends on the perception and the free will of those who are taking part on it.

Tania (01:16:02.53)

How can I forgive myself?

Rubia Lacerda (01:16:11.39)

There are many ways that this question could be answered. It would depend what is it that you want to forgive and why and why there is a need to forgive there. So the way that the Arcturus is explained is like what I'm seeing is they're saying go to the root cause of why there is something there that has caused the resentment and the need to be forgiven. So it's finding out.

Why is it there? Go to the root. So what I'm seeing is that what they show is like a lot of the times it could be something that happened during childhood. It's going back to that child version of yourself, seeing what is it that that child version of yourself needs so that that version can forgive themselves and then so that it can then ripple effect into your adult life. Because what they're showing is that as a child,

A lot of the times children will take on responsibility for something that's happening in the environment. They'll say, this is wrong and it's my fault. And then it creates this resentment to self, which then you get the question, how can I forgive myself? Does that make sense? Is that helpful?

Tania (01:17:28.115)

Yeah, that does make sense because even in the Course in Miracles, Yeshua talks about there's nothing to forgive because you go back to the time right before you think you made the mistake. You were going through some wrong perception. You thought that, yeah, there was something that you thought you were doing wrong, which now you realize you weren't. So it does make sense. And what do we have to do

Rubia Lacerda (01:17:43.912)

Mmm, sad.

Tania (01:17:57.403)

on the planet now in order to get through what choices do we have to do in order to evolve and ascend.

Rubia Lacerda (01:18:08.898)

So when it comes to evolution and ascension, the first thing is that, know, the Arcturans have shared, they have shared, they share this often, is it's on an individual level. So whatever it is that you're doing on an individual level that is going to have an effect and then collectively, you can then evolve and ascend. And on an individual level is who, who are you being in the world?

What are the thoughts, emotions, words, actions that you do, that you're speaking, actions that you're taking? And who are you being, most importantly, when no one is watching? How are you living your life with integrity? Because when you do that on an individual level and you go to the places that you don't want to go, you go and face the things that you don't really want to face, you forgive the people in your reality, you work on yourself, like you're walking the talk.

That in itself, it's like key for the evolution and ascension of this planet.

Tania (01:19:15.027)

Were the Acturians also in 3D like people on the planet Earth right now? And if it was, so how did they make the shift? Did they have natural disasters and so on?

Rubia Lacerda (01:19:26.894)

Do mean like now or do you mean in some time, Actuins were in 3D?

Tania (01:19:31.591)

Yeah, worse at octurians in 3D before.

Rubia Lacerda (01:19:43.726)

So they're showing me that they have been, but it was different than what it is right now. And that has been the fall, they're saying the fall of Atlantis. There was a form of Arcturians who was here at the time of Atlantis, but not how the Arcturians we are experiencing now. And...

Tania (01:19:53.378)

Yeah

Rubia Lacerda (01:20:07.052)

They were being guided as well, like how we are humans being guided by Arcturians now, like let's say now in my case, being guided by Arcturians, bringing through. And at the time they were Arcturians also being guided by other beings that were in higher dimensional realms. And they were doing the best they could as well. So what I'm seeing, like they're showing that there was a lot of chaos that was happening at the time.

Tania (01:20:13.353)

Mm. Mm.

Tania (01:20:34.055)

You mean the Arcturians were living with the humans in Atlantis?

Rubia Lacerda (01:20:38.808)

they were Acturians. They were Acturians, they were Pleiadians and...

Rubia Lacerda (01:20:46.72)

there anyone else? There were other beings. I'm pretty sure that what they're showing me for further reference is that Matthias de Stefano talks about this on his initiation program on Gaia TV. He talks about and there were different beings there including Arcturians and Pleiadians. But like I said, they were a different form of who the form that they are now because

Tania (01:21:02.526)

Mm

Rubia Lacerda (01:21:15.766)

Obviously they have evolved and ascended as well.

Tania (01:21:19.517)

Were the Nephilim something like that? Because we have the Nephilim and their fossils that we find here. Is it some ETs who were living at that time amongst us? Because in the Bible there says that people, beings from the heavens had children with the beings from the earth.

Rubia Lacerda (01:21:43.918)

So what they're showing me for me to share, it's interesting because recently I was, and I maybe touched on with you before we were recording, in Australia there's a work in the desert that's called Uluru, and it's an incredible sacred site. It's the solar plexus, it's known as the solar plexus of the Earth.

Tania (01:22:08.052)

Mm

Rubia Lacerda (01:22:08.34)

And I went there a couple of months ago and it was incredible walking around the rock. And then you hear all the stories of the Aboriginals, the first people of Australia, where they have many stories where they explain that the Pleiadians, they're very connected to the Pleiadians and many other star beings, and that they were co -creating with the Pleiadians. And that they, that we have...

Tania (01:22:18.196)

Mm

Tania (01:22:31.12)

Mm.

Rubia Lacerda (01:22:35.692)

Pryaden, Arcturian, and not only that, that we have star seed in our DNA, like right now. Because if they were co -creating with these beings, there were other indigenous beings that were also co -creating other parts of the world. So we all have star seed DNA, star seed in our DNA.

Tania (01:22:54.783)

Hmm.

Right. So right now, are there so many people and we hear that there is Pleiadians incarnated as humans and Octurians incarnated as humans. Is that true?

Rubia Lacerda (01:23:08.554)

Not to the way that people believe that it is, that there is a pure arterium or a pure pleating, but there is in the sense that it's in your DNA, it's in humans' DNA, and for some humans, it's to a high degree. So let's say I have on my DNA as Rubia, I have DNA Amazonian indigenous, and I have Portuguese.

And I know that they're about 50 -50, right? But for some people, they have 30 % or maybe I'm saying 50 -50, that's more of an assumption. Some people say this 30%, that 30%, that. It's the same when it comes to the DNA of humans having DNA of Arcturian opiating. And obviously, like, I say 50 -50 as an explanation, but it's the same. It could be 25 % Arcturian.

Tania (01:23:38.355)

Mm -mm.

Tania (01:23:45.684)

Mm

Tania (01:23:55.476)

Mm

Rubia Lacerda (01:24:04.206)

But because we don't have the technology to measure that yet, we're not able to scientifically say, am 30 % Portuguese, 30 % Amazonian, indigenous, and 30 % Arcturian.

Tania (01:24:19.266)

Where is the Akashic records? Is it on the earth plane?

Rubia Lacerda (01:24:27.288)

So what the Arcturus are saying is that this question specifically, and everything that they're saying, they always say this, is if it resonates, take it if it doesn't leave it and know that there are many truths that are shared. And today, some of the things that they are sharing, it's one truth, but know that there's more. So when it comes to the Akashic records, what they're saying is that there are...

It can be located in different places, but the place that they see it's located in the six -dimensional realm, not necessarily on the earth. There are records that are located on the earth, but they aren't specifically the Akashic records. And they're saying that they're to know why do you ask specifically is it located on the earth?

Tania (01:25:25.523)

because I recently watched a podcast where they said that the Akashic Records is on near the earth plane, which makes it easier for everybody on the planet earth to be able to access it. So it's not somewhere far away and somewhere else, it's pretty close. It's like the database is right next to the organization.

Rubia Lacerda (01:25:46.734)

Okay, great. So what they're saying is that when it comes to like fire and clothes, it's more like of a human perception. Because if the Akashic records are in the sixth dimensional realm, as once again quoting Matthias says that the Akashic records are there, is that we can access those realms easily. But we may have the fire thing is just the human perception because things, time and space,

Tania (01:25:53.161)

Hmm.

Tania (01:25:59.519)

Hmm.

Tania (01:26:07.433)

Hmm.

Rubia Lacerda (01:26:14.04)

happen here in dimensional realm. But once we access the field, once we access, you know, we're in meditative state, in channeling state, we can access these realms easily.

Tania (01:26:14.132)

Yeah.

Tania (01:26:27.972)

I hear many channelers say that by the end of the year, the DNAs would have already upgraded. Is that true? And what does that mean?

Rubia Lacerda (01:26:46.126)

So DNA will have upgrades. The whole of humanity is going through a DNA upgrade. But what happens when you go through a DNA upgrade is that many humans are ready to embody that upgrade, receive it, then embody. And for many, they will receive it, but it will take them many, many years to embody it. And for some, they will never do it because they need to be ready and open and receptive.

to embody that. So yes, the DNA upgrade is happening. And what is happening with the DNA upgrade? You're already experiencing that because so many of you are so much more sensitive already. You are seeing more, you are hearing more, you are knowing more. You are so much more aware of what's happening on your reality. Your time, it's different. So you're experiencing time in a different way. All of this

It's based on a number of things, but also based on the fact that you are going through a DNA upgrade, which is also the fact that you are activating your crystalline nervous system, which is also a form of upgrades that can only happen as your DNA is upgraded.

Tania (01:28:00.095)

What is the energetic grid like in Dubai or in UAE or probably the evolution of consciousness? Why is it that I don't hear so many people channeling in this part of the world?

Rubia Lacerda (01:28:21.262)

So what they're showing me as you ask the question, I see like a, there's like this field.

Rubia Lacerda (01:28:30.55)

It's like a field of almost like a, like we are different. Like we are like, there's this, this is who we are. Like I'm seeing like almost like a, like a hierarchy, like putting on a pedestal. This is who we are. This is, these are the, very, very strict with like rules and regulations and the way that things are followed, the things that are spoken. And this is where you have to follow. And

When born there, so many of these rules, even if they are not on the DNA, they are around, they are in the field. So which means that there's a lot of people there that may have access to these gifts, they will be like, don't even dare talking about it, because this is outside of the field of the UAE. This is outside of the rules and the regulations and the...

Tania (01:29:11.999)

Hmm.

Rubia Lacerda (01:29:29.238)

like the hierarchy that we are on. Does that make sense? I'm curious to know how that comes through.

Tania (01:29:37.929)

From this side, what I see is I don't see channelers or also I heard that someone, think the Council of Light or someone say that they don't like the word channeling. They don't like it when we say, I guess, Elohim, they were channeling Elohim. They said that they don't like it when we say channeling because probably it's not the right thing or something, I'm not sure. So I don't.

see many people here. And one of the main motives for me starting the podcast here is because I keep watching so many podcasts and everything, all the information that comes through seems to be more related to the lifestyle of the people in the US or the Canada or Australia, but not related to what it is like for us here. The way we think is different, the way we do things are different. So I don't see each channelers talking about what's going to happen by the end of this year.

for UAE. We hear what's going to happen for the elections in the US all the time. Something's going to happen there. are, you know, all this thing. But we don't see how is it going to affect, like, what's going to happen here? What's going to happen to the Gulf countries?

So yeah, what came through for you when I asked that?

Rubia Lacerda (01:30:54.58)

As you are speaking, what I'm seeing is like the questions are being... The questions will be answered as the questions are asked. And I saw you as one of the key people that are asking these questions. And also know that... Okay. So what they're sharing is... Please know that there are multiple timelines and they're doing this. Like they're showing like all these like timelines...

Tania (01:31:10.121)

Hmm.

Rubia Lacerda (01:31:22.522)

all like beside each other, but different things happening. So when the humans are channeling and then when they bring information, they are tapping into one timeline. So one of the things that I don't do, I don't do, or the Arcturians, we don't do, it's like an agreement that we've had. It's like giving specific answers and telling people this is what's going to happen. Because what can happen that can plant seeds of one possibility.

Tania (01:31:32.819)

Hmm.

Tania (01:31:44.36)

Hmm.

Tania (01:31:49.15)

Hmm.

Rubia Lacerda (01:31:49.324)

of let's say, there's gonna be a war in such country by the end of the year. Imagine the amount of seeds about war that it explains the consciousness of people. then collectively, those people that are believing in that are creating that reality. So what they're saying, they're like, you're one of the key people that are gonna be asking more questions and be like, what are the questions that you're asking?

Tania (01:31:56.607)

Yeah.

Tania (01:32:05.407)

Hmm.

Rubia Lacerda (01:32:15.276)

And what are the answers that you're receiving? What are the realities that they are creating, especially for the area where you live on the planet?

Tania (01:32:25.631)

So it's about the questions. I remember Matea saying that, Matea was channeling some ancestors or the elements and they said that, what is the purpose in life if all the questions are answered? We need questions more and more questions. We need people to ask more questions. What is the biggest block that is there in the minds of people here in the Middle East, which is causing like a hindrance for them to evolve, if at all?

Rubia Lacerda (01:32:57.752)

laughing because they're saying we would love to ask you that question and we'd love you to tell us what do you feel, what do you believe, what do you know that you feel is the answer to that question.

Tania (01:33:12.731)

I am actually not really sure because I think when I speak with the people here, they get afraid. They do get afraid. They get really afraid when I'm asking questions. It's like their whole building block just topples over. so I initially I tried forcing myself on all the people, but then I just stopped doing that.

So I don't try to have discussions with people who are not open to it anymore now. But I'm curious to know why are they afraid? Probably.

Rubia Lacerda (01:33:57.454)

So yes, as you were saying that I saw the word fear and they are afraid because... okay.

Rubia Lacerda (01:34:08.898)

because the programs are there. And what happens when we say they are through and say, say programs, we mean the beliefs, the patterns that they acquired from their ancestors during childhood, through society, family, friends, is that they create, going back to what I was speaking about earlier about us not wanting to let go, like not wanting to create success because of not saying.

is the same letting go of all they've known their whole life, that their family, their ancestors known their whole life, can equal to the unconscious mind death. It can also equal being rejected from the pack and being alone. And that it's almost like those two fears. The core of the core of the fears that they have with, like you said, I try to have these conversations, you know.

Tania (01:34:36.969)

Hmm.

Tania (01:34:57.758)

Hmm.

Rubia Lacerda (01:35:06.264)

people are afraid, the core of that fear is dying or being alone or being alone or dying. So for them, it means their life. So, consciously, they will have a reason why they don't want to talk about it, which is usually, I don't want to talk about it, people judge me, we don't talk about that here, that thing is not common here, you know, we follow our religions here and that's what it is. Subconsciously and unconsciously, I'm going to be rejected from my whole path.

Tania (01:35:28.883)

That makes sense.

Rubia Lacerda (01:35:34.314)

or I'm gonna die if I talk about this, so I'm not gonna talk.

Tania (01:35:38.729)

Yeah, that makes sense because the Arabs and the Indians and the Asians, we really stick to family. Like family is everything. So when you start asking something, being alienated from the family is considered more traumatic than being alone. But I see that, you know how we say that in Canada and the US, there's more of hyper -independence, right? That's the terminology that you use where

They try to make you feel like you are on your own all the time. But in here, our parents and the children, take care of each other. We are so close to each other. It's like joint family kind of thing forever. Even after you get married, even after you have children, we are always together. So getting out of that is more, it does feel more like death, just like how you explained. That makes sense.

Rubia Lacerda (01:36:31.532)

Yes.

Tania (01:36:34.429)

When I'm asking questions to the Arcturians through you, how do they see me or how do they see the people who are asking questions? we, like, is it like they are getting visions? Are they seeing us on screens? Are they hearing the voices? What is it like for them?

Rubia Lacerda (01:36:52.884)

everything because they are from high dimensional realms. They don't have the filters that we have because of this 3D body. So it's everything. So they're seeing you, they're hearing you, they're connected to your consciousness, they're connected to your field. So it's like, when I tune into it, it's like this huge expansion of being able to connect with all of all of who you are.

Tania (01:37:00.426)

Tania (01:37:18.187)

my, can they feel my fear while asking questions?

Rubia Lacerda (01:37:24.248)

So they connect, and this is one thing of like, for me has always been of integrity of, you know, being able to tune in with people, connect with people, it's always respecting their energetic boundaries. So like not only I or them right now, connect to your personal reality in a way that would be disrespecting your boundaries. it's like, it's done with respect. So it's more like on a consciousness level, on a level where

Tania (01:37:46.343)

Hmm.

Rubia Lacerda (01:37:54.306)

we're able to serve at the highest answering these questions rather than going, how is Tanya feeling right now? Let's go in, tune in a bit deeper. Is she thinking? No.

Tania (01:38:05.327)

that would be, then they would only hear fear, fear, fear all the time. This is beautiful, honestly. I think we had a great session just asking them. like you said, it's more like when you're in trans -channeling, I don't see a difference between the message that came through now or when you're in doing trans -channeling. More like when you are speaking, doing a verbal channeling.

It's the message, but there's still like an interaction between you and them.

Yeah, even I have also kind of felt like it's like we're having a back and forth discussion. And then we are trying to figure out it's like a friendly conversation where we are having and not like one person just, you know, giving all of the information and then we just stop. So this is beautiful. Thank you so much, Rubia. Can you tell us more about where we can find you?

Rubia Lacerda (01:39:02.062)

So you can connect with me, can find me on social media. So Instagram, it's my favorite, YouTube, Facebook's okay, and my website, rubialasterda .com. And you'll see I share a few things on social media. And yeah, I have a few things happening that you can find it all on my website.

Tania (01:39:10.277)

Hahaha.

Tania (01:39:23.039)

What is the one thing that really excites you about offerings of yourself?

Rubia Lacerda (01:39:30.414)

My most favorite offering, which was birth from my other spiritual awakening, is like, okay, I was offering a program that was sold out a few times and then I was told, it's not that anymore. I was like, great, it took me a few months of trusting and patient that what was meant to come through has come through and what has come through, which is now a signature program. It's called the Ascension Codex, which is all things channeling, intuition.

Tania (01:39:40.201)

Yeah.

Tania (01:39:54.334)

Hmm.

Rubia Lacerda (01:39:57.112)

connecting to your gifts, many of the things I spoke about today, getting to the root cause to remove the things that are there not serving you anymore. And one of my most favorite topics, which is quantum leaping into your ideal reality into higher times of existence. And because of my personal experience last year of not having, not being so grounded and my foundation wasn't strong, I have someone that teaches about nervous system regulation and healing the inner child and

going to those depths that many times we avoid going so that we can come and ascend with more ease and grace and fully embrace and accept our humans because there is no perfect human on this earth. If you ever look social media and you think anyone is perfect or living a perfect life, all the teachers, the beautiful teachers, everyone has something going on and everyone has the shadow and the parts of them that they're working on. So yes, that's what I'm really excited.

Tania (01:40:54.303)

We can see it in your eyes, the excitement. So make sure to go and check out the website. All the links to everything that was discussed today in the podcast will be mentioned to the show notes. And you can also go to www .celestevove .com forward slash episode forward slash 22. Yeah. And do you have any final message for us, Rubia?

Rubia Lacerda (01:41:17.358)

What I would love to share, I love so much that today we worked out to bring through the message of the actors through channeling. Because I always trust that whatever is happening, it's happening for purpose and it's being perfect. And I love that so much.

The final message that I would like to leave today is that I would love to invite everyone that is watching, that is receiving this through time and space to truly know that you have a gift inside of you and allow your gift to be expressed in the way that feels more truth to you. And if that's not trans -channeling, that is okay. If that is through doing what I just did, or if that's through tuning into your body, how does your body feel about certain situation right now?

tuning into your heart or asking the universe to show you through signs. So the signs of the universe are incredible. It's got to be a conversation with somebody, a podcast that you listen to. It's going to be a butterfly that lands on your arm or you're going to see birds or hear birds. So start to truly, really pay attention to the universe because your gifts talk to you in multiple different forms.

and trans -channeling and channeling is just one of them. So not to put these abilities on a pedestal and know that you are such a beautiful, unique individual and very gifted in your own unique way.

Tania (01:42:49.449)

Thank you so much, Ruby. I would love to have spoken with you forever, but we have time constraints. So we're already over time and I'm so glad that you stayed back. Thank you so much, Ruby, for coming on the podcast and speaking to us today. We really appreciate it. Thank you.

Rubia Lacerda (01:43:04.718)

Thank you so much,