#27 EXCLUSIVE: Dr. PEEBLES' Channeled SECRETS to BREAK SOUL CONTRACTS & LIBERATE from KARMA | Summer

Taniastanly (00:54.835)
Hey, everyone. Welcome to the Celestiball podcast. Today, I am so excited and grateful to have this beautiful soul, Summer Bacon, trans medium for beautiful spirit, Dr. James Martin -Peebles on the podcast. Welcome to the podcast, Summer.

Summer Bacon (01:11.394)
Thank you, Tanya. Thank you so much. I'm so happy to be here and so excited and it's wonderful to meet you. Thank you for everything that you're doing for the world. I love it. Yeah.

Taniastanly (01:17.247)
Me too. I'm. my God. Thank you so much for everything that you do. It's beautiful. I saw the video of yours 13 years back. I didn't even know Internet was there 13 years ago, you know, but you were there. So. Yeah, there were those videos and, you know, the messages that came through were also it's just so timeless. So let's start from the beginning.

Summer Bacon (01:23.224)
Thank you.

Summer Bacon (01:29.669)
wow. wow. I didn't realize there was anything out there still. That's great.

Taniastanly (01:43.827)
Tell us, Summer, how did you get into channeling and how did you venture into it? What led you to explore all of these metaphysical practices and finally eventually embrace it the way that you have?

Summer Bacon (01:44.331)
Okay.

Summer Bacon (01:57.034)
my goodness. Well, I will try to put that in a nutshell. I was 11 months old when I knew I was here to do spiritual work and I made a commitment and my mom was taking a picture of me with one of those old Polaroid cameras and I was standing out on the front lawn and she said, smile, Sammy, I'm going to take your picture. And I'm like, no. And I'm thinking, no, it's my picture. You can't have it. And she, as soon as she snapped the camera,

Taniastanly (02:00.126)
haha

Taniastanly (02:14.015)
Hmm.

Summer Bacon (02:25.358)
I said, okay, I'm gonna find out what this truth thing is about once and for all. And I could feel all these spirits around me. I mean, I didn't think of it as spirits. They were just friends, I guess, that, you know, and I said, okay, okay, I'll do it. And that's when I committed to doing the work, but I didn't know what shape that was gonna take. And I really didn't think about it so much for the first part of my life, but I've always had, I saw spirits, I heard spirits, I had psychic experiences. When I was 17 years old, it really intensified.

Taniastanly (02:36.308)
Mm.

Summer Bacon (02:55.148)
I would have prophetic dreams and I would see things before they would happen in the world. And it was very, it was a lot for me. I was having out of body experiences. I didn't do drugs or anything. So it wasn't stuff like that that was inducing that it was just who I was. And fortunately I had a really supportive family. My parents were fantastic. You know, they never, I mean, they probably could have locked me up, you know, because of some of the things that I was seeing and hearing and feeling, but they were like, that's cool. Tell us more. You know, so, so they didn't, they didn't squash that.

Taniastanly (02:55.316)
Mm.

Taniastanly (03:21.395)
Hmm.

Summer Bacon (03:24.718)
part of me at all. just really nurtured and encouraged it. So anyway, so I met Dr. Peebles through many, you know, fast forward many, many years. I met Dr. Peebles through a trans medium named Thomas Jacobson, and I was just enthralled and I was more interested in the process than I was in what Dr. Peebles was saying, oddly enough. I loved what he said. I thought it was beautiful. I, you know, resonated with everything that he was talking about.

Taniastanly (03:45.722)
Summer Bacon (03:52.696)
but I was just amazed by this man who would drop into trance and let this spirit use his body to speak. And I thought, how does he do that? And so it was something that I was just amazed by. And of course I did talk to Dr. Peebles a few times through Thomas and then Thomas quit channeling. And I was like, no, you know, I don't want to lose my connection with Dr. Peebles. And I was also very afraid of demons and

Taniastanly (04:11.366)
Mm.

Summer Bacon (04:22.08)
I was really uncertain about, know, is God's love real? Is it constant? Is it there? Because if God's love is real and constant, then I should have nothing to fear because God will always have my back. So I really needed to know that God existed and I wanted it to be tangible. I wanted it to be something that I could really feel was true in my life. And I also wanted to know that Dr. Peebles was real. And I thought, well,

Taniastanly (04:34.974)
Hmm.

Summer Bacon (04:48.886)
Since Thomas quit, decided I was gonna go find Dr. Peebles. I just, even with all of my experiences of seeing and hearing spirits and all the psychic experiences, this is not an easy process. It didn't just happen overnight. I looked for Dr. Peebles. I sat in a very dark room in my parents' house. We had a little recording studio in my parents' house. It was completely sealed. There was like literally.

Taniastanly (04:52.927)
Mm.

Summer Bacon (05:14.474)
led between the doors and things like that because to seal it for soundproofing. And I sat in there in the dark and I asked Dr. Peebles to stand in the middle of the room and I kept looking for him and I just said, okay, you know I exist, but I don't know that you exist so I need to look for you. So I just looked for him with my heart and I did this every day for sometimes four hours a night when I'd get home from work. I put my baby to bed and I would sit down and I would...

Taniastanly (05:16.926)
Hmm.

Summer Bacon (05:41.93)
look for Dr. Peebles. And eventually I saw an orb, a big bright magenta orb that showed up and I thought, my gosh, is that you? And it got bigger and that was a yes. And so I started asking yes and no questions of this orb. And then I eventually invited, I eventually kind of got bored with that actually. And I said, well, I'm getting kind of bored. I don't know what else to do here. And the orb came over and flew up next to me and I saw it and I went, my gosh,

Taniastanly (05:54.365)
Mm -hmm.

Taniastanly (06:02.897)
No.

Taniastanly (06:08.585)
Hmm.

Summer Bacon (06:11.438)
And I looked at it and I went to touch it and my hand disappeared into it. and then I, knowing that this was Dr. Peebles after, you know, weeks of doing this conversation, this yes and no conversation with this magenta orb, that might sound really, I'm sure, very strange to people, but this is really what happened. I decided to ask it to come into my body because the type of channeling that I do is very physical. It's, I released my body to Dr. Peebles and he uses my muscles, my vocal cords and everything.

Taniastanly (06:16.461)
Summer Bacon (06:41.624)
to communicate. So I practiced like that. This went on for about six years, I think it was, that I worked with him almost on a daily basis and tried to release my body. took forever. And eventually I ended up one day feeling really pain, like a lot of pain in my back. And I didn't know what was wrong with me. I'd had back pain in between my shoulders for many, years.

Taniastanly (07:04.767)
Mm.

Summer Bacon (07:10.914)
But it was so intense that day. thought, my gosh, what am I gonna do? How do I get rid of this? And I was in a panic and my husband at the time was not the nicest man. He was very controlling and he just said, why don't you just go in your room and meditate? And I was like, okay. So I went into the bedroom and meditated and which my big meditation was, I wanna be healed now. That was it. That was my meditation. There were no om's, there was no chanting. There was nothing. It was just like, I wanna be healed now. I was very demanding.

Taniastanly (07:21.353)
Mm.

Taniastanly (07:34.173)
Mwahahahah

Summer Bacon (07:40.406)
And I heard go, get your husband and bring him into the room. And so I went out and I said, you're supposed to come and watch me meditate apparently. And I thought there's no way he's going to come in. And he did. said, okay. So he came in and he sat down on the bed and, and I said, okay, he's here. And I just suddenly, my head went back and I could feel these words coming out of me. And I knew it was Dr. Peebles because he always opens with the same words. God bless you, Dr. Peebles here.

Taniastanly (08:08.253)
Hmm

Summer Bacon (08:09.974)
So I went with it and let him say the words. And about an hour later, I came out of trance and my husband was just sitting on the edge of the bed with his jaw on the floor. He just couldn't believe it because they had talked about things that I didn't even know about him. And so that was my very first time channeling. And then it was, then I channeled dearly departed loved ones for three years. All sorts of spirits came through, all sorts of spirits. And I did it for free. I had no desire to do this for a living.

Taniastanly (08:35.155)
Hmm.

Summer Bacon (08:39.95)
But there were a lot of dearly departed loved ones that came through for people. That was really neat because I would release my whole body to each one of them. They would come through with mannerisms that they had. If they were male or female, that my body would kind of shift to their size and shape. And if they played with their jewelry, they'd be doing that, you know, playing with invisible jewelry that I didn't, you I didn't wear jewelry. And just so many things. was so much, it was a great training.

Taniastanly (08:51.604)
Hmm.

Taniastanly (08:59.13)
Taniastanly (09:03.017)
Hmm.

Summer Bacon (09:06.478)
for what ultimately became finally one day, he said, that was my training. And I was like, what? And he said, yeah, he said, now I will be the only one to come through. And so for me, channeling has been a way to really know that God's love is real and constant. It was also a way for me and has been a way for me to step into other people's shoes and understand them from their perspective. People that I normally wouldn't love, I have been able to learn to love, to understand them. know, people who have...

maybe I wouldn't like if I met them and I think they're kind of, you know, I have all my judgments against them. When you get to experience somebody from the inside out, it's a whole different thing. And now you understand why they are the way they are. So it really helped me with a lot of things in terms of acceptance of people and cultures and religions and all sorts of things that I never would have had without this. So I really did this for me. I mean, I really did. I just did it for me because I wanted to have the evidence that

Taniastanly (09:38.516)
Yeah.

Taniastanly (09:49.257)
Hmm.

Summer Bacon (10:05.932)
It was tangible to me. Nobody can take that from me. I don't care what anybody thinks about what I do. If they don't believe in it, then great. Then they know more about who they are, you know? But I know who I am and I know this process very, very well. Yeah.

Taniastanly (10:09.139)
Mm.

you

Taniastanly (10:19.901)
You know, I, so one question is when you are channeling, what's the difference between mediumship and channeling?

Summer Bacon (10:28.6)
Well, there's lots of different types of channeling. Everybody I believe is a channel. That's my belief. Because for example, you might wake up in the morning and think, you know, you get an inkling that maybe something's going to happen, something silly. you know, I might need to get a new tire today, you know, on my car. And then sure enough, you know, you go outside and you find that you have a flat and you go, how did I know that? Well, because

Taniastanly (10:34.151)
Mm.

Taniastanly (10:49.843)
Mm. Mm.

Summer Bacon (10:57.322)
All this information that's in the universe is available to all of us, but we're not taught that necessarily from birth. So there's lots of different types of channeling. There are people who are clairaudient, meaning that they can hear spirit and they deliver the messages by hearing spirit. And depending on how clear they are is how clear the message is. There are people who...

Taniastanly (11:17.14)
Mm

Summer Bacon (11:21.346)
you know, do psychic readings and they're reading kind of into the ethers or some people call it the Akashic records and reading that to talk about the future, the possibilities of the future or the past. And then there's mediumship that is, you know, there's lots of wonderful mediums who talk to dearly departed loved ones on the other side and convey and relay messages to their loved ones on earth.

Taniastanly (11:31.881)
Mm.

Summer Bacon (11:45.742)
A lot of that I think is done through clear audience, through being able to hear spirit, telling them messages, and then they just speak it. The type that I do is transmediumship, which again is releasing my body to spirit and letting spirit use my body. It's a very physical process. It's very exhausting because my body's like a low voltage wire and the energy of spirit is like high voltage coming through it. afterwards, I'm just really tired afterwards.

Taniastanly (11:56.115)
Mm.

Taniastanly (12:10.58)
Mm.

Summer Bacon (12:15.726)
But I prefer doing it that way. I used to do psychic readings and I used to, you know, I did the channeling of the Dilly departed loved ones where I was a little closer to it. I was more like a puppet. I could feel the things that were going on in my body. But with Dr. Peebles, it's, kind of move up and away and let him just take over. Like instead of me being a psychic and trying to figure out somebody and tune into them, why not just let him do it? Cause he does it so quickly. It's just super easy. So, but I, like I say,

Taniastanly (12:34.025)
Mm.

Taniastanly (12:40.359)
Hmm. so this is an easier way for you. No, it's okay. So you think that this is easier? Hmm.

Summer Bacon (12:45.974)
Yeah. go ahead. I'm sorry. In a way. Yeah, I think so. I think so. And in a way it is. It's just, just to let him kind of take the reins. then, and then I just hold the space for him to speak. And, and again, you know, every, every medium, every psychic is as good as they are clear. I say like a bad channel is like a bad phone connection. You really have to be clear. You can't editorialize.

Taniastanly (13:12.478)
Hmm.

Summer Bacon (13:15.426)
what's coming through. And if you're able to hear what's going to be coming through, it can be very challenging sometimes. Sometimes when I'm in trance, I'll hear the things that are going on kind of backstage and they're saying, we're going to talk about this or we're going to talk about that. And I think I wouldn't want to talk about that or I won't, but okay, I'll let you do it. And then they'll talk about things that like, sometimes I have really no knowledge of science and other stuff that that's really not my, not something that I'm really knowledgeable about.

Taniastanly (13:27.88)
Hmm.

Taniastanly (13:32.583)
Hahaha

Hmm.

Taniastanly (13:42.952)
Hmm.

Summer Bacon (13:45.422)
They'll say a lot of things that I learned from them as they speak through me. So it's very, it's an interesting process. It's a lot of fun and it's tiring, but it's a lot of fun in terms of how it affects people's lives and the things I've experienced through it.

Taniastanly (13:53.801)
So.

Taniastanly (13:59.635)
Yeah, I heard that you went through a near -death experience because of channelling, right?

Summer Bacon (14:05.966)
Yes. Yeah, I forget what year that was, 2005, 2006, somewhere in there. I had been channeling a lot, like way more than anybody should. And because I had an institute and so I was channeling about nine times a week and I really should only be doing it maybe maximum of once or twice, especially now. And apparently there was a study a friend of mine told me about, no, a medical doctor, a cardiologist told me about that.

Taniastanly (14:17.033)
Mm.

Summer Bacon (14:36.404)
Even a bad psychic uses more magnesium than a really, you know, everyday person uses. And magnesium is one of those things that is key to keeping your heart beating. Well, I didn't know about this and I woke up, well, didn't wake up, but I was on my way out of my body and I was going through this tunnel and I was heading towards this light and I suddenly realized I'm dying.

Taniastanly (14:39.783)
Hmm.

Summer Bacon (15:04.554)
And it was the most awesome thing. I was so excited. I was just, I'm going through that. Yeah. I was going through this tunnel and it was, it was like, was being pulled by this love that if you've ever been in love and it's just, I'm so in love magnify that a hundred thousand times. It's love. Like you can't even fathom this love was pulling me. And I remember thinking as I'm going through this tunnel, I'm like, my gosh, I'm dying.

Taniastanly (15:06.719)
Finally, I can use someone else.

Taniastanly (15:20.073)
Hmm.

Summer Bacon (15:34.552)
Well, my mom's not going to be very happy about that. And I thought, well, and then I thought, about my children? I thought, well. And yeah, was, it was just so beautiful. And then I got to the end of this tunnel and this tunnel that I'm in, it's like a tube. And there's this huge cavern of light that I saw. And of all things, this was most interesting to me because I was not raised Christian.

Taniastanly (15:43.753)
This is just too nice.

Taniastanly (15:53.353)
Mm.

Summer Bacon (16:03.17)
But at the end of this tube, tunnel, this big cavern of light, there was Jesus standing there with his arms outstretched. And I knew it was Jesus. And I've got other things I can tell you about that, but I knew it was Jesus. And I was like, my gosh, this is amazing. I'm going home and this is for real and it's Jesus. And so I'm going towards him and he just takes his arms and he goes, nope.

Taniastanly (16:11.849)
Mmm.

Summer Bacon (16:31.202)
And he pushes and he says, it's not your time and pushed me and I tumbled back and I tumbled back into my body and woke up and I just cried. I cried. I was like, no. I was so upset that I had to come back. was just, but you know, it changed my life. know I've heard a lot of near death experiences from people who they say they came back and it changed their life on earth in a positive way. And I have to be honest for me, it's like.

Taniastanly (16:57.321)
Mmm.

Summer Bacon (16:59.99)
I want to go home. You know, I know I have work to do here, but I have zero fear of death. mean, zero. I know how beautiful it is and how loving it is. but yeah, it was it was interesting that it was Jesus, not that it would be that way for everybody. I think we all whatever our belief system is will take us to wherever we think we're going to go. I didn't necessarily have a preconceived idea of that when I die, I'm to go I'm going to go see Jesus or something that was not not. So that's kind of

Taniastanly (17:01.375)
Hahaha

Taniastanly (17:16.504)
Mm.

Summer Bacon (17:29.806)
took me took me aback, but but I did have a couple of encounters with him in my life, which was very he saved my life on one on one occasion, very, very literally. And then I became a born again Christian for a while, which was really not not a good thing. My family and friends, I really drove them crazy. It was a little out there and I was I finally left the church. And

Taniastanly (17:48.596)
You

Taniastanly (17:56.531)
Hmm.

Summer Bacon (17:59.126)
God really, you know, I really, really had a very clear reason why I left the church. And then later on, I saw Jesus one time when I was in my abusive marriage, I wanted to die. But I didn't want to leave my children, but I didn't know how to get out of the marriage. I knew if I tried that he might kill us all. And so I was like, I had heard of this thing called walk -in.

Taniastanly (18:13.652)
Mm.

Summer Bacon (18:26.606)
And a walk -in is a spirit that supposedly walks into a living person and takes over, basically, their life. Not their life, but just, it's a swap. Yeah, exactly. Yes. Yeah. And I didn't know if I believed it. I was only like, I'm 64. I was like, 36 at the time. And, and I was very naive about a lot of things. And I thought, well, if there's a walk -in, I wonder if there's anybody out there who'd be willing to do that and take over the role of being mother to my children and everything.

Taniastanly (18:26.888)
Hmm.

Taniastanly (18:33.873)
It's like a swap, right? Of the souls.

Taniastanly (18:45.331)
Mm.

Summer Bacon (18:57.206)
Well, it was real. I went to bed that night and I started rolling out of my body and there was this other spirit that was coming in as a female spirit. And at that moment I went, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait, no, no, no, no, no, Yeah, yeah, you have no permission to be here. And she left very easily left. And I sat up in bed and I was like, whoa, what did I just do? And I looked up and at the foot of my bed, there's Jesus standing there.

Taniastanly (19:04.797)
Wow.

Taniastanly (19:09.855)
I was just kidding.

Summer Bacon (19:25.474)
And again, I have no preconceived ideas. I wasn't raised as a Christian. wasn't like, you know, you're supposed to look this way or that way. There was this beautiful, all I can say is a beautiful being of light who was bright white and golden and blue, like kind of this blue. From the ceiling to the floor was this light and then this very tall man being, and he's standing there and of all things, he's wearing a white robe with a golden sash. And I'm like, this is just too out of Hollywood here.

Taniastanly (19:32.189)
Yeah.

Mm.

Taniastanly (19:39.593)
Hmm.

Taniastanly (19:54.483)
Mm -hmm

Summer Bacon (19:54.674)
And, you know, I just thought, you know, I don't know. And I look in his eyes and his eyes are like these, like if you could take the planet earth, you know, the beautiful blue orb of the planet earth and make that your eyeballs. That's what it was like. It was just like, you could see forever in his eyes and the love was amazing. And he told me, he said, you will be, he said, I love you summer. You will be out of this marriage in six months. And I was like,

Taniastanly (20:04.158)
Hmm.

Summer Bacon (20:22.91)
thank you. And I said, I love you too. And then he just went, just disappeared. And the process started six months later of me getting out safely.

Taniastanly (20:28.351)
Hello.

Taniastanly (20:31.999)
Wow, I'm out of words for that. I do remember you talking about the moment where you drove in a car and out of that. Have you done these past life regressions or anything like that? And do you know what all you have? Okay, so what was the signal? So did you have a bond with your ex -husband? What's your purpose in this lifetime right now?

Summer Bacon (20:34.316)
Yeah.

Summer Bacon (20:46.274)
yeah.

Summer Bacon (20:57.958)
Yeah, well, not from the past life regression so much, yeah, I came in with a, it's been a, it's not been an easy journey, but it has been fascinating. I've really had an interesting life, I have to say, as a mystic and in the things that I've seen and heard and felt in my life. But with my husband, it was interesting because when I met him, I was still talking to Dr. Peebles through Thomas Jacobson and,

He said that we were a split soul. He didn't explain what that was. And I thought, a split soul. So maybe we're coming back together. So I really thought maybe this is, this is wonderful. It's a reunion, right? Well, after I got out of the marriage, Dr. Peebles said, no, no, no, That's not what a split soul is. They're split for a reason. Like a complete opposites, you know? Just, you know, that it wasn't meant to be, you know? And I said, so.

Taniastanly (21:30.365)
Hmm.

Taniastanly (21:45.983)
Right.

Summer Bacon (21:54.402)
But yeah, so, but also my husband was instrumental in helping me become the transmedium that I am, I admit that, because I was so afraid of him that when I started channeling, he was a scientist, he had a scientific mind and he wanted to test the channel. So he would read books and he would, that I had never read, about like the Mormon church, or he read a book about Edgar Cayce.

Taniastanly (22:03.433)
Hmm.

Hmm.

Taniastanly (22:14.121)
Hmm.

Taniastanly (22:18.345)
Mm.

Taniastanly (22:24.605)
Mm.

Summer Bacon (22:24.628)
I didn't know who Edgar Cayce was. I was really naive about a lot of stuff. And he would say, you need to go into trance now. And it's like, OK, OK. So I would go into trance immediately, drop into trance, do it, do it, do it, whenever he asked. And it sometimes was several times a day. And he would test the channel. He would test and test and test. he would always get the answers. The correct answers would come through. So he pushed me really hard. I was.

Taniastanly (22:48.767)
you

Summer Bacon (22:54.83)
running a graphic design company at the time. And I was working 16 hour days sometimes with that. And then I channel again. And it was just, it was nonstop. And I would channel dearly departed loved ones for people who asked. And he'd be like, you need to do that now. I'm like, okay, I'll do it now. And, know, I wasn't getting paid for this or anything. I just did it. So that was my training. was like bootcamp, you know? It was a lot, but it was, know, in a way it was, you know, but.

Taniastanly (23:12.413)
Wow.

Taniastanly (23:18.719)
that is really traumatizing.

Summer Bacon (23:24.426)
I was so, I was, like I say, I was so naive and I was very shy. And I don't think I ever would have been doing this work ultimately, you for the world if I hadn't been pushed that hard. You know, I was, I'm a really reluctant, really reluctant trans medium. mean, I really, you know, you won't find me a lot on social media or anything because of the fact that I.

Taniastanly (23:51.976)
Hmm.

Summer Bacon (23:54.214)
I just, I'm not that way. I'm not, I'm not like, I've got to put this out there, you know, and me, me, me, you know, look at me. I'm the great trans medium or something. I'm not, I just don't have that drive. I don't have it. So I'm constantly being pushed, you know, I will tell you Tanya that I was saying a prayer to God. And I said, cause I'm, I don't know what to do next right now.

Taniastanly (23:58.643)
Hmm. Yeah, yeah.

Taniastanly (24:08.861)
Hehehehe

Taniastanly (24:14.045)
Hmm.

Summer Bacon (24:18.414)
with the work and I said, said, you know, I don't know where this is going. I'm 64, I've been doing this for almost 30 years. I said, do I just go out and get a day job or what am I supposed to do? And I said, I said, because the only thing that I would like is if we could just bring these messages to the broader world, these beautiful, loving messages and maybe somehow help people and perhaps help in some small way bring about.

Taniastanly (24:24.563)
Hmm.

Taniastanly (24:37.502)
Mm

Summer Bacon (24:45.314)
world peace, you know, not that I have any great aspirations, but, but, but it's like, you know, and I, and I said this prayer and then I just like, yeah, well, okay. And I got up and I went to do something and I heard you're going to get an offer. And it was as loud as could be. And I'm like an offer. I an offer for what? And the next morning I got your email inviting me to be on your show. And I was like,

Whoa, and the broader reach and everything in the world. was just so, I didn't even know what to do. I didn't know how to respond. I was so dumbstruck. It was so beautiful. I'm so, that's why I'm so excited to be here.

Taniastanly (25:22.161)
I can't believe that. mean, that's, I mean, that's beautiful. You know, because when I messaged you to I felt like the sort of instant connection when you responded back, it's like I already became friends with you, you know, you know, we just started chatting by email and talking about what's happening there, what's happening here. And that's one of the most it's just it's beautiful. Recently, my cousin, I don't I don't

Summer Bacon (25:34.838)
Yeah. Yeah.

Taniastanly (25:49.553)
Like I don't channel the way you do or the way my guests do, but I just want to like, you know, feel that like how you said that you wanted to like channeling feel so tangible to you. It's like the sort of proof that God exists, you know, and my cousin was also asking me why are you so drawn to it? And I'm like, I don't know. It's just for no reason. It's not not about making money. It's not about fame. It's just nothing. just feels so real. Like it's

That's just how it is. And when you say that you're also at this crossroads, right, you don't know how it is, how it plays out. When you look back now and you think about all that you've done with Chandla, because you've been doing it for so many years, right? Do you know if this was like a sole contract for you? It's just what you came for or what's going to happen next? Are you going to reincarnate again on Earth?

Summer Bacon (26:35.36)
Yeah.

Taniastanly (26:47.069)
Are you going to be a guide later on?

Summer Bacon (26:50.198)
You know, would like to, I can't believe these words are coming out of my mouth, but I would like to reincarnate again. I'd like to have a do -over a little bit with my life, you know, just do some things differently. But yeah, and I would love to be a guide. I would love to work with Dr. Peebles and the band of angels that he works with and, you know, from the other side and continue working with the earth. I'm not really sure why, like,

if it's a soul contract that I came in with, but I'm pretty sure it was something like that. I think I knew what I was getting myself into and I volunteered for a pretty big thing in my world anyway. So, and that's why I've gone into it kicking and screaming like, what have I done? What did I agree to do? my gosh. So yeah, I think I did. And also I do know about a previous life that I had where I, beyond a shadow of a doubt, I know I was this woman who was this actress.

Taniastanly (27:30.26)
Hmm.

Summer Bacon (27:48.818)
She was famous during her time and she wasn't the nicest person. She was a nice person, but she was with a lot of men and she was with lot of married men and she did a lot of things. She was more about money and fame and her looks and all this stuff, which is just the absolute antithesis of who I am. Other than maybe saying, maybe I want to make sure I don't.

Taniastanly (27:51.496)
Wow.

Taniastanly (28:03.529)
Mm.

Taniastanly (28:11.785)
You

Summer Bacon (28:16.774)
You don't see all this on the zoom thing or something, but, but, it's just sort of the antithesis of who I am. I'm just not a, I'm not driven by those things at all. And, I'm just kind of, you know, out to help people. And I think I'm, I'm definitely rectifying a lot of stuff. think I've gone through a lot of karma in this lifetime. I really, really have experienced a lot of that in this lifetime at which I do believe was part of my relationship with my husband. I've been married four times.

Taniastanly (28:38.27)
Hmm.

Summer Bacon (28:46.796)
So I believe there was a lot of karma within those relationships as well and others that I've had, know. So it's been something, yeah.

Taniastanly (28:50.686)
Hmm.

Mm.

Taniastanly (28:57.619)
They say that in this lifetime, apparently this is one of a kind lifetime where everyone gets to deal with all of their past lives and integrate it and deal with their karma and all of that. And that's why life is more difficult. When you think about it like that, do you think we have, I mean, do you feel like you have been able to integrate all of that? like, do you think there's anything left? Because you know what I thought? I thought that people who can channel

they have already dealt with their karma and because now they're of some high vibration now, so they've already dealt with it. So I thought that there won't be anything left for them and next they can be guides, ascended masters. But then you said that you were being asked to channel like at gunpoint kind of thing, not exactly gunpoint, but you know, like that. that's in no way high vibration, right?

Summer Bacon (29:31.37)
Yeah, yeah, I understand.

Summer Bacon (29:38.38)
Mm -hmm.

Summer Bacon (29:47.444)
Yeah.

Taniastanly (29:54.941)
How does this work? What are your thoughts on that?

Summer Bacon (29:58.454)
Yeah, well, first of all, I've had a lot I've had people say to me, like in relationships, you think you're so spiritual. It's like, no, I don't think I'm so spiritual. I am I am spiritual. I am a mystic. have had this stuff happen to me all my life, but it does not make me any better than anybody else. I just don't believe that. And and Dr. Peebles teaches that there is no hierarchy.

So when people talk about ascended masters or anything that sounds hierarchical, he just says, about the ascended master that you are. He'll like, just point it back right at you. Like we're seeking all of those things that we think are out there and somebody else is, and they're so perfect. We seek it out in the world when the journey is to go inside of ourselves and find it within ourselves. We each have that ability.

Taniastanly (30:26.804)
Hmm.

Taniastanly (30:51.325)
Hmm. Hmm.

Summer Bacon (30:52.884)
And as I said, you know, we, we are each, we each have the ability to channel it just a matter of how much you want to develop that muscle basically in your, you know, in your life, how much you work on it. I worked on it really hard. I mean, I really have worked very hard to do what I do. It did not come easy. It not like I just popped into trance one day. you know, I worked very hard on myself and I continue to work hard on myself. And, know, another thing that Dr. Peebles says is there's no, there's no limit to growth.

So if somebody is saying, you know, I'm an ascended master, I've attained enlightenment, what he will always say is like, now that you're enlightened, what are you gonna do next? Because there's really no, yeah, there's no there to get to. You just keep growing. So I don't see it as anything exclusive for me to have experienced a lot of karma in my life has only helped me.

Taniastanly (31:33.639)
Yeah, I read that. Yeah.

Summer Bacon (31:51.298)
That which does not kill me makes me stronger. I do believe that there's, I don't know if a lot of people really realize, a friend of mine pointed out the meaning of being stoned to death. The actual origin of that phrase means to be torn down, to be rebuilt closer to God. And so spiritual seekers can often feel like they are being torn down. Like I know,

Taniastanly (32:03.988)
Hmm.

Taniastanly (32:14.079)
Hmm.

Summer Bacon (32:20.724)
This might sound really simplistic, but I can't go five miles an hour over the speed limit. I'm just not allowed to, you know, if I, if I try to even do that, there's going to be a police officer right around the corner. I can't get away with anything. I can't lie. can't, I have to, you know, I'm constantly being, you know, put in line and it's like, it's like that old thing of the, the, the, the, the gate to heaven or the pathway to heaven is very narrow.

Taniastanly (32:25.683)
Mm.

Taniastanly (32:32.169)
Mm.

Summer Bacon (32:49.39)
because you're constantly being, you're being squeezed. You're getting all that other junk off of you that you, you know, it doesn't, there's no place for it. And you end up, you know, having a lot of challenges. mean, a lot of the people I know who are some of the most beautiful spiritual teachers I've ever met in my life are constantly being put through the wringer, you know? So I think it's really, one of the things I can tell you is when I've taught channeling,

Taniastanly (32:49.673)
Mm.

Taniastanly (32:54.143)
Mm.

Taniastanly (33:17.684)
Mm.

Summer Bacon (33:18.734)
I'm very hesitant to do that anymore because people are always constantly asking, when am I going to go into trance? And it's sort of like asking, it's sort of like somebody who wants to be a concert pianist saying, when am I going to be a concert pianist? Well, are you doing your practice? Are you practicing? You know, do you have the fingers to do it? I mean, there's so much to it. It's not like, you know, spirits just gonna jump into your body and you're gonna

Taniastanly (33:28.415)
Hmm.

Taniastanly (33:38.473)
you

Summer Bacon (33:47.692)
just suddenly be channeling up a storm and be some celebrity or something. It's not about that. It's not about that at all. It's what we do for ourselves and our own personal growth. And then if other people benefit from that, hallelujah, that's great. But, you know, I did it for me. I did it for me. And some people resonate with it, some people don't, and that's okay. We don't always all have to, you know, believe the same things and go down the same path.

Taniastanly (34:03.006)
Hmm.

Summer Bacon (34:17.606)
We, I think we eventually all, no matter what journey we're on, we get to the same destination, which is love. I think that is the ultimate goal. This is a school called Planet Earth. We choose to come here. It's the toughest school in the universe. And we have all kinds of ways in which we can learn to love and be loved. And we can do it through all sorts of avenues. We learn about it through all sorts of things. Every single one of us, the worst among us that we might think they're just terrible people. They're just learning. They're just growing.

Taniastanly (34:22.846)
Hmm.

Taniastanly (34:27.977)
Mm

Taniastanly (34:41.503)
True.

Taniastanly (34:46.889)
Mm.

Summer Bacon (34:47.303)
They don't understand that we all make mistakes. And as Dr. Peebles says, there are no mistakes really, there is only growth. And if you really think about it, it's true. We always, know, think if you learn from your mistakes, so -called, then you're just growing. You're just a growing being.

Taniastanly (34:55.379)
Yeah.

Taniastanly (35:03.027)
Yeah, there are no mistakes, Jen. We do learn at every step of the way. There's always something to learn. It's about what am I going to learn? What is it for me? What is it doing for me? You know, I wanted to ask you about what do you think are the purpose of romantic relationships right now? Like, do you think we even need to like what's the purpose of marriage now? Do we even need it? Is it just for karmic purposes and get like, you know, deal with it? What is it for?

Summer Bacon (35:12.62)
Yeah.

Summer Bacon (35:33.014)
You know, having been married four times, just I can only speak really from what I've learned about it. I do believe sometimes it can be karmic working out, but there was one point where I was like, I've been married four times, why? And I was the last person who wanted to be married four times. I wanted one marriage. I wanted one relationship from the time I was very little.

Taniastanly (35:55.689)
Hmm.

Mm.

Summer Bacon (35:59.178)
And it didn't work out that way for me. And I thought, why didn't it? And in some ways, I think we marry a part of ourselves that we need to really look at and really examine. And that might sound strange. that's coming from someone who had a couple of extremely abusive marriages. But I can say that if that was a reflection of me, I'm really hard on myself.

Taniastanly (36:18.045)
Hmm, yeah.

Taniastanly (36:22.878)
Hmm.

Summer Bacon (36:25.994)
I really berate and belittle myself a lot and I've done a lot in my life, not so much anymore, but I've been extremely hard on myself. So I felt, think in retrospect, I believe I felt that I deserved that kind of scrutiny and that kind of badgering and that I wasn't worthy.

Taniastanly (36:26.175)
Yeah.

Mm.

Taniastanly (36:37.481)
Hmm.

Summer Bacon (36:44.27)
And it taught me to finally realize that I am worthy and I'm a good person and I'm doing the best I can. so there's a lot to be learned from marriages, but I do think that you're marrying part of yourself. There's something that is, is showing you about you. Now that's just my perspective. There could be 8 ,000s of people out there who would disagree. And people who found their soul mate is great. That's fantastic. I think that's beautiful.

Taniastanly (37:06.215)
No, I have always... Yeah.

Summer Bacon (37:11.448)
They've married, they've married part of themselves, know, found their whole self or something. Yeah.

Taniastanly (37:16.551)
Yeah, you know, I understand because I've also been divorced. So when I look back now, there was a time where I felt that I didn't deserve a good relationship. You get it? Like as in there's that part where you feel like I'm not worthy of because there was a lot of pressure, know, in Indian communities, it's like, this is the time frame. Everyone has to get married. So it's like more than the person, it was more to do with the time at this.

Summer Bacon (37:30.797)
Thank you.

Taniastanly (37:45.203)
this age I need to get it. So then I'm like, okay, maybe I'm not worthy for that one, maybe not this. So it just keeps going down, down, down. And then you just pick someone. So when you say that we are picking someone who's reflecting the kind of value that you give yourself, it makes sense. It makes sense now.

Summer Bacon (38:04.524)
Yeah. Well, it's like, you know, one of the things Dr. Peebles talks about is through your choices and perceptions, you create your own reality. it's like, well, why would I want to create that reality? Well, I chose to marry these men. I chose to be with them. And I also ignored that little voice within me that said, don't do it. Don't go there. You know, this is not, don't want to, you it's like somebody tells you, don't go into that, you know, into the bramble and the briar.

Taniastanly (38:18.643)
Yeah.

Taniastanly (38:24.969)
Hmm.

Summer Bacon (38:32.782)
because you're gonna get all caught up and there's scary monsters in there and you say, no, there's not, I can do this. And you go in and then, oops, know. But I think that there's a lot of that where we make these decisions, but I do kind of wanna say something because as someone who has gone through a lot of abuse, I've had people say to me, well, so you just, you picked the wrong guy, you know.

Taniastanly (38:37.949)
Hehehehe

Taniastanly (38:59.668)
Mm.

Summer Bacon (39:00.096)
Maybe next time you'll make a better decision or a better choice. But I can tell you that there are a lot of people who are very, very good at presenting themselves as one person and not revealing their true self until later on. And so it's not that I chose wrong. I loved. Is there something wrong with me falling in love with anyone? Why would that be the wrong?

Taniastanly (39:08.254)
Mm.

Taniastanly (39:12.095)
100%.

Taniastanly (39:24.628)
Mm.

Summer Bacon (39:27.818)
I found value and beauty and light and possibilities within the men that I was with. I loved each one of them dearly. But then they didn't live up to my expectations of what I thought they were going to be like. And that's where it fell apart. I thought, I can change them or I can help them or...

You know, I saw the possibilities there that they could live up to, but they weren't ready to live up to it. So was seeing the potential of the light within these people falling in love with that rather than what they were actually putting on the surface, you know. And if somebody tells you they love you and they're gonna, you know, support you and they wanna be a father and they, you know, and it's like, really? we have the same ideals in life. And then you get married and then that goes away.

Taniastanly (39:59.667)
Mm.

Taniastanly (40:04.873)
Hmm.

Taniastanly (40:19.411)
Yeah.

Summer Bacon (40:19.81)
That's a toughie, know, but I would not blame anyone for their choice of mate. If they truly love them, love is never wrong. That's just my belief.

Taniastanly (40:28.543)
You know, if you were in India, nobody would have said that to you. In India, we would say, yeah, we know he's not that good of a guy, but then you're married, so you've got to deal with it. Look at us. We've been married for 50 years. See, he's such a bad person, but I stayed by his side. So no one would have said anything to you if you were here. They would have applauded you, given you all the trophies. You would have been the perfect person in India. You know, especially if you get abused and you stay in the marriage.

Summer Bacon (40:32.064)
Yeah.

Summer Bacon (40:44.37)
You

Summer Bacon (40:52.014)
Yeah.

Taniastanly (40:58.877)
I guess my YouTube channel, like all the Indians would probably say shit about me, but this was in the past. No, even now I have friends who message me, not friends, like, know, UK, girls who message me saying that, you know, my husband is, he's abusing me, he's dragging me by the hair, abusing me, hitting me in front of my child. And she's like, I told this to my parents and my parents asked me to compromise, as in to stay with the guy. So this is the kind of way.

Summer Bacon (41:15.256)
Mm -hmm.

Summer Bacon (41:21.368)
Yeah.

Taniastanly (41:26.171)
people talk in this part of the world and in our community. So it takes a lot of courage.

Summer Bacon (41:30.934)
Yeah, well, know, yeah, it, my gosh. Well, you know, in, it was after my marriage, the one I was talking about, the man who worked with me when I was, you know, a trans medium. When I got out of that marriage, I went to my mother's house, I escaped, got over there. And one of my friends came over to the house and she said,

Taniastanly (41:43.229)
Yeah.

Taniastanly (41:51.625)
Yeah.

Summer Bacon (41:55.18)
She said, so are you okay? I said, no, I'm not. said, I've abused, you know, for a long time, but I haven't said anything about it. And she said, well, can't you just pretend that everything's okay and stay in the marriage and just pretend everything's okay? And I said, I've been pretending everything's okay for nine years. And it's just, you know, and I thought, so it happens here too in America. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, really interesting.

Taniastanly (42:02.079)
Mm.

Taniastanly (42:07.096)
Mmm.

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. That's good. Welcome to India. Yeah. It's a yeah, it's fine. You know, you understand because for them, what they think is that if they say to leave the marriage and they they're afraid that you would then seek, you know, their help and they would have to take care of us. And I understand all the

Summer Bacon (42:36.451)
Mm -hmm.

Taniastanly (42:38.335)
I understand from their side as well. And it's okay, it's made us stronger. It's made all the women stronger. And, you know, we learn from it. Can you tell us about Dr. Peoples? Can you tell us what you know about him? And he's such a fascinating person. I never thought someone who died recently, like from what I understand, Dr. Peoples died in 1922 at the age of 99 and he traveled the world five times. He's just brilliant person. He attained enlightenment during his transition. So.

Summer Bacon (42:44.121)
Yeah. Yeah.

Summer Bacon (42:50.837)
Yeah.

Taniastanly (43:07.299)
I thought that ascended masters or someone like that is like from a long time back. Is Dr. Peebles called an ascended master?

Summer Bacon (43:18.694)
No, he would never, he would never, don't know, again, because he's not about any kind of hierarchy. So he, yeah, he was a spiritualist minister on earth. He was a channel and he was a medical doctor and a naturopath and he was a U .S. consulate to Turkey. He was a benefactor to many, many people. He helped children. He helped a lot of people who didn't.

Taniastanly (43:20.561)
No?

Taniastanly (43:26.58)
Hmm.

Taniastanly (43:31.615)
Hmm.

Summer Bacon (43:46.882)
have anything he gave everyone, everything to anybody who needed it. When he traveled the world, he traveled, can you imagine, by ship around the world five times and he didn't stay in the fancy suites. He stayed in the bowels of the ship with the people who were poor and sick and he ministered to them and he took care of them and healed them, brought them back to good health. He was a tremendous, tremendous man on earth. He says through me, he says, I was a bit of a stuffed shirt.

Taniastanly (43:56.799)
Hello.

Summer Bacon (44:16.898)
which he was apparently, you know, he was very controversial in his life on earth. was against vaccinations. He wrote a book about that. He gave his books to his publishers and they made the money on him. He wasn't doing it to make money. He was out to just speak his truth. And he always says, there was a poem he wrote and part of it was, speak thy truth if thou knowest it and let it jostle whom it may.

Taniastanly (44:28.562)
Yeah, yeah.

Summer Bacon (44:44.622)
And that's the way he is. He just will say it like it is. And if you don't like it, he goes, that's OK. You don't have to like it. He doesn't care. He just speaks his truth, and he lets us make our own decisions. So yeah, he was a tremendously beautiful man on Earth. And he really wanted to live to be 100 years old, but he died four days shy. I think it was of his 100th birthday. So yeah, he's.

Taniastanly (44:49.086)
Mm.

Taniastanly (44:53.161)
Hmm.

Taniastanly (45:09.854)
Do you think he picked that one as well? Like 99, not 100. He would have picked that, right?

Summer Bacon (45:16.544)
You know, I don't know. don't know. suppose it was to show, you know, he learned something from that to find out that it wasn't necessary to live to be a hundred years old. You know, it was his big thing that he was going to live to be a hundred years old and he was determined to do that. And I think that was the one thing that was like maybe one of his points of pride that he didn't get away with. It's like, yeah, no, it's not going to work that way.

And we're going to pull the plug a little early so he could see like, well, that's true. It doesn't really matter. When it's your time, it's your time. You just go. so yeah, it's not about it.

Taniastanly (45:52.051)
How do you communicate? So how do you communicate with Dr. Peoples? Because when you're speaking, when Dr. Peoples takes over your body, you don't remember what he says, right? So let's say you are going through a difficulty, then how do you communicate with him?

Summer Bacon (46:01.493)
Yeah, yeah.

Summer Bacon (46:07.03)
Yeah, well, I do remember some things sometimes, and it's not always. If you were to talk to me right after a session about something that he said, I might be like, yeah, I kind of remember that. But it just disappears sort of like a lucid dream that you think you're going to remember, and then it disappears. But when I talk to him, I just talk to him. I get up in the morning, hi. Just like when I said, this is literally how I pray it. God, Dr. Peebles, don't know what to do with my life. I really don't.

Taniastanly (46:10.313)
Hmm.

Taniastanly (46:21.747)
Hmm.

Summer Bacon (46:36.224)
If I could do something, I'd want to bring Dr. Peebles messages to the broader world. And I don't know how to do that. I don't even know if it's possible. And then the next day you email me and that's the way I pray. And I just say, you know, however that happens, thanks guys. I'm not, I don't go, I'm not like in to a lot of ritual and things like that. just, it's not something I do, it's who I am. So I mean, I might be praying while I'm, you know, or talking to Dr. Peebles while I'm doing the dishes. Sometimes I hear him loud and clear and he will tell me.

Taniastanly (46:43.251)
Hmm.

Taniastanly (47:04.787)
Hmm.

Summer Bacon (47:05.834)
some things to do. It's really funny. It's like, this might sound silly, but I went to get a glass of water to put on the table. So I'd have it here during, during the interview. And I thought, no, I'm just going to use one of the plastic kid cups because I don't want it to make a noise when I put it on the table, you know, like a clunk. So I go to get that and I start to fill it with ice and I hear it, no, you need a glass.

Taniastanly (47:14.655)
Mm.

Taniastanly (47:25.181)
Yeah.

Taniastanly (47:31.495)
Hahaha.

Summer Bacon (47:31.874)
Like really? Why? And they're like, because it gets imbued with our energy. And it does. Water will get imbued with the energy. And they wanted me to have this for my refresher after I go into transfer and talk to you. so I just follow orders. I just do what they say, unless I don't want to. People say, well, like one time Dr. Peebles wanted me to do this group session thing. And I said, no, I don't feel like it. And everybody goes, you said no to him? And I said, yeah. They don't want us to just.

Taniastanly (47:38.689)
Aww.

Taniastanly (47:56.754)
Mm -hmm.

Summer Bacon (48:01.314)
They don't want us to ignore ourselves and our own feelings. If I did it because it was doctor's orders, then I'd be, you know, I wouldn't be honest and it wouldn't come out right. It wouldn't work, you know? And so I'm just very honest with him, you know? And so I do hear him though. When, like I say, when he wants to get my attention, he says it loud and clear. He really does. So.

Taniastanly (48:12.68)
Hmm.

Taniastanly (48:23.289)
so when you when you are talking to him, can you see him? Like, do you see him? Does he look like what he looks like in the photos? Or what do you see?

Summer Bacon (48:31.566)
Sometimes, sometimes he's more of a feel. I feel him around me. I can feel the largeness of him. He's very, very large. And when I first started channeling him, I was like, is this for real? mean, I was, you know, I was just so like amazed. Like I did. I said, are you, this is really you Dr. Peebles? One day I was driving home from the store, middle of the day, and this huge, huge cloud was over the mountain by my house. And it was exactly the picture of Dr. Peebles that you would see on my website. I mean, it was like,

somebody painted it in the sky. And I just went, my goodness. And I can just feel that love and that, you know, that he's there. I do see him every once in a while. When my mom was passing away in 2012, she became very childlike at the end. And she was seeing somebody in the room and she was speaking to them. was just, you know, that my daughter and I couldn't see. And my daughter said, Grammy, who are you talking to? She said, she said, they're all here.

Taniastanly (49:13.247)
Mm.

Summer Bacon (49:31.794)
And my daughter said, who? she said, my mommy, my daddy, Dr. Peebles and Jesus. And her dog, whatever her dog's name that she loved so much was there. And then she mouthed to them, she said, yes, I'm ready. And then she passed away not long after that. So it was, and I did see Dr. Peebles with her before that. And he was very clear in my mind.

Taniastanly (49:32.191)
Taniastanly (49:38.52)
Taniastanly (49:52.233)
Hmm.

Summer Bacon (49:59.532)
my mind as I see him, you know, in the older pictures of him. And he said, he said, I will be there to escort your mother across. And I was like, and I said that to my daughter. said, Dr. Peebles said he's going to escort your mother across, escort Grammy across to the other side. And my mom was in sort of a comatose state and she popped awake and she said, I've been waiting for him. It was so sweet. It was like, my gosh, you know.

So yeah, he makes his presence known. Do you want to meet him?

Taniastanly (50:33.395)
Yeah, would love to. Absolutely. would love to. I love speaking to you too. know, usually when I'm speaking to guests, time just it's like there's a sometimes I connect more with the person that with the entity that the guest is channeling. But with you, I feel like I can just go on talking. It's just so wonderful to speak to you.

Summer Bacon (50:38.189)
Yeah.

Summer Bacon (50:50.061)
No.

Summer Bacon (50:54.07)
you're so sweet. That's music to my ears, you have no idea. Thank you so much. my gosh. I mean, I love to share because I've got so many experiences with so many different things. you know, I've been really, really blessed in that with the, you know, extraterrestrial encounters and, and ghosts and ghost busting and so many things. It's been really fun. I, yeah, yeah.

Taniastanly (51:06.408)
Yeah.

Taniastanly (51:16.319)
There's so much, know, I know. I've heard about all the things that you've done. by the way, did you know that even when Buddha, when apparently when he was born and even before he could start walking, he was also saying that, OK, I have had 500 something incarnations and in this incarnation, I'm going to find out what's the truth. Because that's what I remember when you said, yeah, when you said at 11 months old, you said that I'm going to find out the truth, this incarnation. So apparently he was also saying that.

Summer Bacon (51:44.146)
wow, I did not know that. How cool. my gosh. Yeah.

Taniastanly (51:45.865)
So it's, yeah, yeah, there are these stories of that. So it's cool, it's just fun.

Summer Bacon (51:52.626)
my gosh. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cause I have not, I, one thing I didn't do when I started channeling is I stopped reading anything and I stopped watching the news. So I didn't know anything about anything because I wanted to be as clear as I could possibly be. So I never read spiritual books or I never had a teacher I'm self -taught. So it's interesting when I hear little tidbits like that, it's like, I didn't know that. You know, I never, never read that anywhere.

Taniastanly (52:07.913)
Mm.

Mm.

Taniastanly (52:14.409)
Hmm.

Summer Bacon (52:19.544)
But I can feel him here if you just, if you want to say hi and you're welcome to ask him questions if he's, know, if you want. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

Taniastanly (52:19.956)
Yeah.

absolutely. I wanted to ask you before that because you said that he takes over your body, right? Is there like a time that I should keep in mind where I should stop? he will will let me know. OK, fine. OK. Cool. Yeah.

Summer Bacon (52:30.221)
Yeah.

No, no, he'll say, he'll let you know. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, yeah, so he'll just let you know when it's time to allow, he says, our little channel to return. So.

Taniastanly (52:46.111)
So what's your process? Yeah, I hear that. It's so cute when he says, you know, can I get the little Chandler? And then the guest would say, no, we have one more question. One more question. like, no, the little Chandler is so cute. Yeah. Okay. So what's your process like?

Summer Bacon (52:52.545)
Yeah.

Well, was a, was a, Krishna Madhapa was this, this Indian guy who, wanted to test me, using, yeah, using this, computer equipment before, during, and after the session. And he was able to, to record before, before the session. If you think about like a, like a gingerbread man, you know, it was like the blue line of a gingerbread man was my energy.

Taniastanly (53:08.347)
test you. Okay.

Summer Bacon (53:25.43)
And as I started going into trance, this red line went around it on the outside of it. And as I went into trance, the red line went into the blue line. So that's like spirit coming in. And at the end of the session, that red line became so small at the center. And he goes, and that is when you're near death. I said, Whoa, okay. He said, that's why he says it's time for the channel to return. I was like, okay, now that makes sense. Now I know why I'm so tired.

Taniastanly (53:25.831)
Okay.

Taniastanly (53:33.663)
Wow.

Taniastanly (53:44.191)
Taniastanly (53:50.639)
you know, that's such an interesting study. think you should, where can they find it? Where can the audience find it? This is like so cool.

Summer Bacon (53:57.806)
I lost track of it. used to have it on my website. I will see if I can find it again. And he used to have a website where he had it posted and everything with all the information there. It was really interesting. And I had it on my website. I had all the pictures and everything, all the graphs and stuff. But I can't find it, but I'll try. Yeah.

Taniastanly (54:10.003)
Wow.

Taniastanly (54:19.967)
That's okay. We'll find it out. So let's check it out. Yeah. All right. So let's get started.

Summer Bacon (54:24.502)
Yeah, maybe so. Yeah, yeah. So when I go into trance, I just go. So it doesn't I don't do any anything major. So I'm just going to go ahead and go into trance and enjoy. God bless you, Dr. Peebles here. is a joy and a blessing when man and spirit join together in search of the greater truths and awareness. God bless you indeed, my dear friends, as you strive to understand your right to receive and to give abundance in this your chosen lifetime.

Taniastanly (54:35.507)
Alright.

Summer Bacon (54:51.756)
We would like to offer to you the following principles to be used as tools in tandem. Number one, loving allowance for all things to be in their own time and place, starting for yourselves. God bless you indeed. Number two, increase communication with all of life and with respect. God bless you indeed. Number three, self -responsibility for your life is a creative adventure for through your choices and perceptions, you do indeed create your own reality. God bless you indeed. My dear friends, you have come to the school called Planet Earth to discover and dissolve the illusions of separation.

within self and between life. Certainly it is your labor of love to diminish these very same illusions wherein you will discover that never in your eternal soul have you been the victim, but always the creator. And God bless you indeed, my dear friends, beautiful creators, students of the divine, so many of you around the world suddenly joining together in your heart. You love each other so very much at your core. You want to be together because you are one family exploring yourselves in a variety of ways.

My dear friends, you share so much at the core that is exactly the same, the love within you, the desires within you to grow, to create, to procreate as well. God bless you indeed, my dear friends. You have a variety of ways in which you can explore this in the world. And you, my dear friends, that is not one way in which it is better than the other. Not one way which is wrong. It's just your way. How are you gonna do it when you wake up in the morning and greet the world? How are you going to engage with it? That is your study of yourself, my dear friends.

It is all about you because you live with you all the time, 24 hours a day, seven days a week, year after year, and sometimes lifetime after lifetime. God bless you indeed. So my dear friends, remember that you are an eternal soul, eternal, meaning that when you leave this earth, you will explore things in other places. You might come back to the earth again. You might explore other dimensions. You might enjoy the exploration of other planets and other ideologies and such.

But upon this school called Planet Earth, you are each and everyone, no matter what culture, what religion, what, if you will, desires that you have in your life. You are here to learn to love and be loved. What does that mean to you? And we're not talking about sexuality. We're talking about love, the true, the greater love of God. God, my dear friends, who is the father of all children on the Planet Earth, one family together, not separate, not better than anybody else.

Summer Bacon (57:12.844)
Just one family, look around you, my dear friends, and you have a huge, beautiful family fall in love there. And that is what will eventually bring about the world peace that so many of you desire to have. God bless you indeed. You are beautiful spirits in a study of self upon this school called Planet Earth. Enjoy it, but strive not to change others. Let them be who they are. Have the dignity and the respect to allow for others to have their lives the way that they desire to do it. And if they don't resonate with you, then turn away, my dear friends, and go elsewhere.

Find people of like mind and like heart. Enjoy, celebrate the way that you want to celebrate life upon this school called Planet Earth. You are beautiful spirits. We love you so very much. And goodness gracious, my dear Tanya, you are a beautiful spirit. We love you so very much. Goodness, you are doing some wonderful work here upon this school called Planet Earth through your heart, through your willingness to share, to care beyond your wildest dreams and imaginations. There's nothing holding you back. You came popping out of the womb, getting ready to

get into the world and do all that you can to nurture. Nurturing is your, if you will, specialty. You love to nurture the people of the world no matter what. You have the greatest sensitivity towards people who are hurting in a variety of ways. Even when they are hurting others, you say, they must be hurting themselves. You can always see the other side of the situation.

And that is the beauty and the wonder of you, my dear. You're doing beautiful work. We thank you so very much for shining your light so brightly, so courageously in the world. God bless you indeed. You are a beautiful spirit and you have a long way to go, yet you're gonna have a...

glorious journey and God bless you indeed. Yes, my dear love does exist out there for you with someone who is going to come into your life and be very, very special to you, precious to you, who will understand you, care for you, but not my different and find ways to manipulate you, but rather to embrace you, truly embrace you with the heart, not necessarily through enclosure. God bless you indeed. Do you understand my dear and we love you so very much. God bless you indeed. Yeah.

Taniastanly (59:15.155)
Thank you, Dr. Peebles, for coming through.

Summer Bacon (59:17.652)
You are very welcome. It's a delight. It's a pleasure. Why, goodness gracious, we have this joyful opportunity to engage with humanity. God bless you indeed. It's so beautiful,

Taniastanly (59:23.743)
you

Taniastanly (59:28.265)
Dr. Peoples, my question is, mentioned in the summer and mentioned in the book that you attained enlightenment during your transition. Can you tell me what that was like and what does enlightenment even mean?

Summer Bacon (59:42.434)
Yeah, well, it was glorious. What I discovered in that process of leaving my body was all that I was seeking was right there inside of myself. That was the enlightenment that I was seeking. I thought it was outside, but it was inside. You see, you're seeking love on the earth, to love and be loved. Well, my dear friends, it starts with yourself, to love self and to be loved by self and then extend that to others. It's happening right here and now already inside of you, but some of you are just not yet awakened to it.

So you think that your enlightenment is outside of you, but it's inside. So as I was leaving my body, was rather, shall we say, in a excruciating pain towards the end of my life with rheumatoid arthritis and my hands were rather curled up and I was curled up in the fetal position on my bed. And it was excruciating. It was not a delightful moment for me at all. And part of me was a little angry. thought, well.

After everything I've done, me, me, what have I done for the world so very much? And now here I am in this terrible pain. And then suddenly somebody whispered in my ear and said, that's an illusion. And I thought, an illusion? How could that possibly be an illusion? And I was told, let us show you here. And so I left my body very, very gently and suddenly realized that it was just a body. was like dropping a coat of this human form. And suddenly there I was in spirit.

but still to myself, very tangible. Just as you feel yourself, I felt myself, but I had no pain. And I suddenly realized that I was dropping this coat of the human form of the ills, of the belief in death, of the belief in separation, in the belief that I might be better than somebody else, in the belief that others might be better than me, in the belief that I was what I was doing rather than just being a human being. I learned so much in that process of transition. was remarkable.

And I had a tremendous variety of guides and friends on the other side, of course, who helped me in that transition. And I was wondering, well, can I go back to the earth? And they said, well, you know something, you're quite complete now that you desire to go back. And they said, perhaps you would like to join us in helping those upon the school called Planet Earth to keep their light shining brightly. And I thought that was the most beautiful offer I ever could have been made. And so I've been working with the band of angels for ever since.

Summer Bacon (01:01:58.72)
And it's been an absolute delight, an absolute pleasure to work with the many rather than the few. Human beings are a little bit of a conundrum to us sometimes because you have so many ways in which you try to wriggle free from love. You try to escape it. You don't want to, if you will, share your light with the world. You're terrified of doing it sometimes. And we've got to be pretty creative over here.

to help and to assist, to guide you and direct you in your life's work, because we can't do it for you, but we can certainly point the way. God bless you indeed. And that's the tip of the iceberg. But does that help, my dear? That's a beautiful question. Thanks very much for asking, yeah.

Taniastanly (01:02:32.379)
Dr. Peoples, when you say you're helping others, when you're helping the people on the planet, I know that Summer Bacon channels you, but are you, do the other people also know whoever is receiving information or help from you that it's you?

Summer Bacon (01:02:48.288)
Not always, sometimes they do, yes, but not always. And it's not really necessary. It's not about me necessarily. I can share the energy and the love with the world just as you might pray for world peace. Not everybody knows that you're praying, but you're praying and people will feel it. They certainly will. Pray for the upliftment, for example, of those you don't like. If there's a politician or somebody else, say, well, I don't like that person. They're terrible. I hope they die. No, my dear friends, pray for their upliftment. Pray that they come to know their heart.

Taniastanly (01:02:54.367)
Hmm.

Summer Bacon (01:03:17.4)
pray that they become the brightest light shining in the world, giving love and care and consideration to the many rather than the few. That's what we would suggest here, you see. So yes, when I am speaking to people on the earth and working with them, it's a collective community here. Sometimes we are working collectively, certainly together. They are here with me now. Oftentimes they are collecting information to give to me so that I can distill it down into what you need to hear right here and now.

but there's a lot of information and we have a very short time period through the channel and we don't take it lightly. We want to the important information given as quickly as possible here. That's why I tend to speak rather quickly as well through summer. But yes, it's a glorious opportunity to just be with the many, just to comfort and such during times of war, comfort those who are leaving their bodies. We've got collective community here.

Taniastanly (01:03:58.911)
Mm

Summer Bacon (01:04:12.686)
whose specialty, shall we say, is to help those who are crossing over during times of war specifically. There are others who work specifically with children who are crossing over when they are left alone, such as orphans and such. God bless you indeed. So there's lots of different communities doing different things, just as there is on earth. But the only difference is that we know that there is no such thing as death. That is only growth.

So we're excited about the work that we do and we love each other and we walk into each other and experiencing in each other without hiding ourselves away. So it's a glorious existence where I am and we'd love for you to experience on the earth as well. God bless you indeed. To realize everything that you see, hear, taste, touch, feel and smell on the planet earth is really you. It's just all out there for you to explore and to examine and to understand. And God bless you indeed. Does that help my dear?

Taniastanly (01:05:01.627)
It does, doctor. If there was one question that you wish I asked, because you know, there's time constraints and is there a question that the collective is asking which you wish to answer?

Summer Bacon (01:05:13.568)
No, not necessarily. want for you to do the work. We want for you to come from your heart, you see. So it's not so much about our needs. don't really, it would be hard to explain how it's not a need inside of us. It's not, goodness gracious, well, that channeling session failed. You see, we don't look at it like that. We just see it as an excursion. It's a journey. It's so much fun. Even you're asking this of me.

Taniastanly (01:05:31.348)
Mmm.

Summer Bacon (01:05:38.616)
Currently, that was a wonderful question that you asked. Do you have a question, Dr. Peebles, that you would like to ask? You see, that was a question. So it's never is it wrong. Never is it not enough. God bless you indeed. It's also very beautiful. God bless you indeed. Do you understand, my dear? Yeah? And don't worry about the channel. We'll take good care of her, God bless you indeed.

Taniastanly (01:05:56.548)
Yes, yes. Can you explain what is karma and soul contracts and how can I liberate myself from them to fully enjoy my life?

Summer Bacon (01:06:04.812)
Well, you don't have to experience it for one thing. That's by choice. Do you understand this? You make a decision that you want to rectify something or whatever it might be with someone. So you by choice come back to experience that karma and to rectify things because you think that there was something wrong with what you did in that previous lifetime. But in truth, it was just something that you did. And if you feel the need to have some closure there and to have turn about being fair play so that you can experience what they experienced.

Taniastanly (01:06:09.662)
Mm.

Summer Bacon (01:06:34.43)
You killed somebody, you say, all right, you kill me in this lifetime so that I can experience what you experienced. And it happens in the same way. Then you've experienced your karma because you just want out of curiosity to have that experience. But it's not necessary. You don't have to experience it. The soul contracts. Well, we don't speak in those sorts of terms. Those are terms of humanity, which is understandable because everybody on the Earth does like to compartmentalize things for their studies.

You can have a contract, just as you can on earth with any sort of contract, you can break it if you want. You can say, I don't think I can follow through with this. I'm so sorry. I can't keep my word and such. So that does happen sometimes. And that can cause a little bit of upset within relationships and such. That's why some relationships that one person says, but I thought you were here with me for life. And the other person says, I thought so too, but I don't feel that way anymore.

And so they grow and they go their way in peace, love and harmony. So there's lots of things though that you might have a contract or a deal with yourself. And you say, I'm gonna come to the earth and I'm going to build skyscrapers. And then you get to the earth and you start doing that and you say, you know something, this is rather boring. I'm not enjoying it as much as I thought I would. Perhaps I'm gonna steer clear of that now and change directions. And so you have always, always if you will, the opportunity and choice.

to change directions, you see, through your choices and perceptions, you create your own reality, you really do. And we know that some people would say, why would I create this particular reality? Well, because you chose to be born into the family you were born into for reasons that, well, we couldn't explore them all because there's so many different people, so much diversity in life, you see. But you choose your journey, you choose your passions, you choose where you're gonna put your attention in life and for your own personal growth.

And as far as we are concerned, it's all just one big beautiful dance together. And eventually you come to learn that you are a beautiful spirit born of divine love. And you come back to that awareness of yourself and then you go on to doing other things. God bless you indeed. And does that help my dear?

Taniastanly (01:08:33.971)
That does, Doctor. Doctor, what is the purpose of romantic relationships in our life now?

Summer Bacon (01:08:40.076)
goodness gracious, which one? You see, there are so many. so it's, sadly, people are just simply drawn to each other for a variety of reasons. Sexually are drawn to each other, drawn to each other for wanting to grow in terms of the mental stimulation they might get from somebody, all sorts of relationships. But life in itself, you see, is about relationship. There's romantic relationships. There's a relationship that you have with the chair that you're sitting upon.

There's a relationship that you have with the sky and the trees and the plants and the birds and everything in life. You have a relationship with all of it. You're constantly looking around you and scrutinizing things and thinking about things and overthinking things and that sort of stuff. But by your nature, by being human, some of it is in many situations because you've been told since birth that you're going to find the one. And it's important that you do because you must get married and you must have children and such.

There's lots of shudds around your lives on the earth because of different ways in which different cultures are created and the way in which people choose to live their lives and share with their children and such. So that's a very broad question. It's an excellent question though, my dear, it really is. But the true romance is with yourself, with God, with the light within. And once you find that, then you can just simply, if you will, be with anyone that you are with.

with pure love in your heart and you will find that you do not need anybody to complete you because they're already within you and you're not separate from anyone. God bless you indeed. I am within you, you are within me and we are as one in God. God bless you indeed.

Taniastanly (01:10:16.979)
Dr. Peebles, what is your definition of God now?

Summer Bacon (01:10:20.908)
I don't have one particularly. God is love. That would be the best way to describe it. But who is God is a whole other thing. And how expansive is God is another thing. We are learning and growing just like you are, always. God is an infinite exploration of self and wonder and beauty and light and possibilities and the possibilities that are endless. is just a tremendous, tremendous.

Why would we want to put that in a box? see, it's just, it doesn't have an end to it. It's so beautiful. Absolutely just glorious, yeah. God bless you indeed.

Taniastanly (01:10:56.285)
I learned, thank you, Dr. Peebles, I learned in Akashic record when I did a reading that I had many lifetimes where I was suppressed by men. And it seems like a lot of the women who are incarnated on the planet do probably went through these suppressions under men. How am I supposed to use this information? Like, what are we supposed to do with this? How is our relationship towards men supposed to change or towards me, myself, supposed to change?

Summer Bacon (01:11:24.684)
Well, you know something, my dear, there's no real right or wrong in that. We couldn't say that there's a pat answer to it. It's what do you want? How do you want to live your life? see, some women do like to be suppressed by men. They prefer, they feel their identity is that. And so they are comfortable with the uncomfortable. And so it's a matter of you found this out. Well, you can discard it now. You can say, is that the case? Okay, now I understand why I went through the things I went through.

I'm repeating old patterns. I don't want to do it anymore. And so you just don't. But if you put too much emphasis upon it, things that you find out about yourself, about your past, past lives and such, you can get entangled in that. It's like gum on your shoe. You can't get it off, you see. And you carry it with you everywhere and you put everything through that filter. And we would suggest not doing that. Saying that was then, this is now. Who do I want to be here? Yeah? You understand?

Taniastanly (01:12:05.385)
Hmm.

Taniastanly (01:12:17.075)
Hmm. Yeah, I understand, Doctor.

Summer Bacon (01:12:19.298)
God bless you indeed. And if we were to answer there are others here who are saying, God is you, God is me. God is the chair you are sitting upon. God is the air you breathe. God is light.

Taniastanly (01:12:29.568)
Yeah, Dr. God is light. Dr. I heard you talking about all the things that's going to happen in the coming few years and that we are to prepare for it. What do you think is going to happen in the coming few years and how are we supposed to prepare for that?

Summer Bacon (01:12:47.436)
Well, what we suggest is to remember that you are here and now. This is it. Everything that you've ever done in your life, everything adds up to this moment right here. Dear Tanya, you are talking to an old spook over the internet right here and now. And everything you've done in your life adds up to this. Not too bad of a moment. Yeah. God bless you indeed. But for the things that are coming up, it's a matter of how you are going into your days, going into it with love, with clarity of who you are.

Taniastanly (01:13:06.298)
Mm.

Summer Bacon (01:13:15.532)
as you are witnessing things around you that you might not like, that are very disturbing at times, you still can always go back into your heart and remember that you are birthed of love and proceed from there. How are you going to be in the world? What do you want to engage with? How do you want to engage with it? There are going to be upsets upon the planet Earth.

That's as old as time, you see. Are there going to be more wars? Yes, there are. Is there going to be a lot of discord? There is already and always will be for many years to come. But the good news is that you're all growing and laboring in love and you are moving into a new dimension of understanding of love. And that's why it seems that all the creepy crawlers are being exposed at this given time. The light is shining much more brightly than it ever has before.

So you are all moving towards the light. And that is the happy ending for everybody is that everybody's going to, if you will, suddenly realize and waken to the fact that they are birthed of love, that they are eternal, that there is no death. All these wonderful things that every person, no matter who they are, what country they live in, no matter what religion they study, will eventually come to understand this within themselves.

and know that everything is always in right order. it's a, we ask that you shine your light brightly and please don't give up. Those of you who have that love within your hearts, it's hard to stay on the earth. We know it, it's not an easy school and it's not easy sticking around and the going gets tough, but we would ask that you do please. You're helping and assisting us in keeping that light shining brightly as the planet earth grows. God bless you indeed.

And that's the tip of the iceberg. And my dear, is there anything further before we allow the channel to return? God bless you indeed.

Taniastanly (01:14:58.94)
Doctor, just one last question, is I keep hearing that you've got to surrender and listen to your heart, but I don't know how to do that. How can we do that more? How can we listen to our heart?

Summer Bacon (01:15:01.111)
Yes.

Summer Bacon (01:15:10.062)
Practice, practice, practice. Yeah, you gotta practice. You know your heart, you've got to listen to it. Your heart is, it might seem it's that still small voice within, but it's actually much louder than you think. And it's that part of you that said that it just was a little inkling that said, not that person. I ought not be with them. Or, no, perhaps I don't need to go to the store today, even though I do need some soup in my pantry. But you feel no, or perhaps you get a feeling of needing to go outside.

Taniastanly (01:15:13.502)
Hmm.

Summer Bacon (01:15:39.904)
at a strange time of the night and you just happen to be there to help someone who's in need, who's crawling on the ground and hurting and bleeding and they need your help. You see, there's ways in which you listen to your heart that does not always have words. It's not gonna speak so loudly that it says, Tanya, here's what you need to do next. It might, but it's not always gonna be loud like that. It comes in feelings. Your body is like an antenna and it can pick up all sorts of information.

information highway is much, much more intense when you're just sitting with yourself in meditation, feeling into the world and the universe than it ever could possibly be on your internet. Your internet is just the smallest, smallest page in a book that is so huge and grand in terms of the information of the universe. If you sit and trust your heart, especially when it comes to the internet and things that you read and hear and see on there, trust your heart and what you say, I get a feeling that's not right. Well, trust that.

More than often than not, it's gonna be 100 % accurate. So trust your heart, my dear, and know that you know. That's all you gotta do and get practicing that and trusting those little inklings. It starts with the little stuff. And then eventually you'll start to have these larger visions and awarenesses of your heart, who you are, what you're about, what you want, what you don't want. How often have, for example, many of you say, well, somebody says you want to go to the park and you say, okay, yes.

Even though you don't want to? Well, you know your heart. Your heart says, I don't want to go. What's wrong with saying, no, I really don't? Well, because they're going to get mad at me. Well, you really need to go to the park. I want to go to the park, so you need to come with me. But I don't want to go to the park. But I do love you. So I do want to help you. And if you really want me to go to the park with you, then I will. You see? That's following your heart. You say, well, yes, I've got both these things. They seem to be conflicting. But

Taniastanly (01:17:09.598)
Mm.

Taniastanly (01:17:14.504)
Hmm.

Taniastanly (01:17:21.286)
Mm.

Summer Bacon (01:17:32.93)
The one that overrides the other is that I love this person and I will go to the park with them if that's what they really want. Then you discover you have a wonderful time because you followed your heart, you see? God bless you Wendy, does that help my dear? That's a tough topic, isn't it? It's a big one and most human beings have a hard time with that, So we describe it as simply as we possibly can to make it not such the big scary monster to overcome, yeah?

Taniastanly (01:17:41.727)
Hmm.

That does, doctor. It's a big one. Yeah.

Taniastanly (01:17:56.157)
Yes.

Summer Bacon (01:17:57.228)
You're living with your heart all the time. You have it within you. All things are contained within you, not outside of you. You cannot pick up a pencil without it first happening inside of yourself. Then you materialize it in the external world. God bless you indeed. Everything is contained within and you are all very, very beautiful spirits. We love you so very much to those who are listening here today. We send out a beautiful, loving regards to your soul for being willing to be upon this school called Planet Earth.

courageous individuals, each and every one, students of the divine, to thine own self be true. Continue in your journey to the heart and enjoy the journey, my dear friends. You are beautiful spirits. Your life is but an eye blink. So enjoy the journey while you can and go your way in peace, love and harmony, for life is indeed a joy. And all you have to do is you enjoy the journey to your own hearts and certainly to your own enlightenment is simply lighten up just a little bit more. God bless you indeed.

Taniastanly (01:18:53.929)
Thank you, doctor.

Taniastanly (01:19:01.545)
Hi, hi.

Summer Bacon (01:19:04.14)
I'm back. How did it go? I'm just still trying to find where you are there. I see you now.

Taniastanly (01:19:05.555)
Wow, how are you feeling?

Yeah, yeah, I'm here. Yeah, you can take some time. Just get back. Yeah. Yeah, you did go into trance pretty fast and you came out of it also pretty fast. How do you feel?

Summer Bacon (01:19:20.13)
Yeah. Yeah.

Summer Bacon (01:19:26.726)
wiped out a little bit, but yeah, yeah. It's just, it's like, it's like, the feeling when I come out of trans is like, I've been underwater for a really, really long time. If you've ever held your breath underwater and then you think, my goodness, am I going to make it to the surface in time? And then you pop up for that breath of air. It's like that feels like that. And, yeah. And I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm tired, but it feels good. I, you know, it's interesting when I come out of trans,

Taniastanly (01:19:29.085)
You were still wiped out, wiped out, yeah.

Taniastanly (01:19:42.92)
Yeah.

Summer Bacon (01:19:54.048)
Everything is so bright. Like the screen in front of me is really like the colors are so bright and popping. That always seems to be the way. And I always, when I come out of trance, I'm a little disoriented. I don't know where I am. know, like I come out and I think I'm looking over there, but I'm looking over here. It's just so different, you know? Yeah, good.

Taniastanly (01:19:56.905)
Hmm.

Right.

Taniastanly (01:20:08.232)
Hmm.

Taniastanly (01:20:14.015)
Dr. Peebles was amazing. He's so full of love. my gosh. Like, can you imagine Dr. Peebles in our house the whole time, just giving motivational speech, positive talks. He's like, he's so amazing, you know.

Summer Bacon (01:20:26.349)
Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, he is. really is. You know, my friend Liz is here with me in the room today. And, you know, we were talking earlier about the energy as it was building before the session or before the podcast. And it's just this huge, huge energy that comes in and we were both sitting here going, whoa.

Taniastanly (01:20:40.68)
Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah.

Summer Bacon (01:20:51.404)
And I thought, I don't know if I can hold on here. You know, cause we can feel it gets full of spirit and you know, they, have lives. lot of people think they're just floating around and doing nothing, but they actually have very active lives. And so I know that when I channel that there are actually beings on the other side who come to watch like they, it's like something, an event that they like to go to. yeah. Dr. Peebles is, is going to be channeling today, you know, through summer.

Taniastanly (01:20:53.513)
Ha ha ha.

Taniastanly (01:21:01.693)
Yeah.

Taniastanly (01:21:18.194)
Wow.

Summer Bacon (01:21:18.804)
And so let's go watch. And so they gather around and sometimes I'll hear my mom and dad saying, know, we're there, something, you know, and I'm like, good, you know. So it's, you can think in terms of the other side as being a place where we still are expressing ourselves, we're still growing. We're not, you don't change. We're not, know, I'm not, like when I had my near death experience, it wasn't like I was no longer summer. I was still me. I still had my thoughts. I still had everything. I was still all intact.

Taniastanly (01:21:27.711)
Taniastanly (01:21:43.742)
Hmm.

Summer Bacon (01:21:48.022)
And the only thing I didn't have was I didn't feel any pain or anything like that. you know, it's amazing when you think about it, because people say, what do they do? And I don't know. I couldn't tell you what half the people are doing on the other side of the world right now, because I'm not them. But they're doing a lot of stuff. They're doing a lot of really interesting things I'm sure I'm not even connected with and have no idea about. So, yeah.

Taniastanly (01:21:52.318)
Hmm.

Taniastanly (01:22:04.467)
Yeah, yeah.

Taniastanly (01:22:12.553)
Hmm. You know, I think somewhere, this is probably like the first episode where I felt like the veil between the other side and this side was thin, because when talking to you, it's like there's a family, you know, the way Dr. Peebles talks, the way you talk about your family and then the other side interacting with each other. It just felt like we were all together. And I've never felt, yeah, I've never felt that before. So that was beautiful. So I'm going to.

Summer Bacon (01:22:34.498)
That's so beautiful. Wow. That is really, thank you for saying that. That's beautiful. Yeah.

Taniastanly (01:22:42.537)
You're welcome. I'm going to ask you just two questions, which I'm going to ask my guests. So this is like a new segment that I'm starting. It's called the Cosmic Close and it's taking inspiration. Yeah, it's taking inspiration from Rupert Spira's book. So he's all about finding happiness. So the first question to you is, how do you think we can be free of suffering and find lasting peace and happiness?

Summer Bacon (01:22:53.75)
I like that.

Summer Bacon (01:23:11.66)
By stopping, stop trying to change each other and just enjoy the diversity and the unity that is within that is our heart, our love, our ability to love and to dream and to have ideas and just really stop trying to change each other. We don't all have to think or believe the same things in order to fit together. We can have a great time. I have a wide, wide range of friends, know, atheists.

I grew up with a friend who was a Swami and great friend of the family and people from all walks of life, but we get along because we love to listen to each other. We love to learn from each other. That's what I would say. Yeah. Thank you.

Taniastanly (01:23:43.657)
Mm.

Taniastanly (01:23:53.247)
Beautiful. I love the answer. My next question is, and the last one, how do we define what is real in our life?

Summer Bacon (01:24:05.474)
I don't think defining it is a good idea. I think everything is real. I think when you finally let go of having to define anything is where you find those things that seem to be hidden, but they're there all the time. Like air has substance to it. You think it's empty space, but if you really stare into the space, you'll start to realize there's movement there. You might even see spirits there. It's when you don't define it that it becomes this amazing thing. It's getting all those shoulds out of our lives that will free us up.

to all the possibilities. How do you see UFOs? You gotta believe in you you suddenly your vibration changes and shifts and there you are being able to see the UFOs because you're resonating with them. And so it really frees you up. Really frees you up. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you.

Taniastanly (01:24:38.558)
Hmm.

Taniastanly (01:24:51.465)
Beautiful, beautiful answer. Thank you so much, Samar. Can you tell us where we can find you and the beautiful work that you do?

Summer Bacon (01:24:58.696)
yes. it, my website is summer bacon .com summer, the season bacon, like the food. Somebody got mad at me for saying bacon, like the food because of animals, but I just to describe my name. So, and, it's so that people know how to spell it. so summer bacon .com and I just want to make it clear. I'm no longer doing private sessions anymore, but I do have all of these beautiful messages from Dr. Peebles on MP3s.

Taniastanly (01:25:07.01)
yeah.

Taniastanly (01:25:19.625)
Mm

Summer Bacon (01:25:24.76)
You can hear little snippets of them and they're just real inexpensive. I just love getting the, his beautiful messages out to the world when you're kind of feeling down and you just need a little upliftment and you think it's, you what's the point of anything? Just listen to one of those and you'll really, really feel good. You know, feel like, there I am, I'm back. You know, he, makes it okay to be you. And so, you know, enjoy that. And I do have some books on there. There's a book of quotes by Dr. Peebles and then my autobiography, if you want to.

Taniastanly (01:25:36.638)
Mm.

Taniastanly (01:25:41.8)
Mm -hmm.

Summer Bacon (01:25:52.642)
read about my crazy life. It's really fun.

Taniastanly (01:25:54.303)
I wanted to get your autobiography, but it would arrive only by the 30th of September and our podcast is happening earlier. So that's why I couldn't get it. I got the the school called Planet Earth and I'm still reading a beautiful book, amazing book. I love what you wrote in that. And do you have any final advice for us? Summer.

Summer Bacon (01:26:00.522)
Yeah.

Summer Bacon (01:26:07.498)
So.

good. thank you.

Summer Bacon (01:26:17.288)
you know, I just always say don't give up. Just don't give up on yourself and don't be afraid to be you. I mean, really it's, I think that's the thing that messes things up so badly is people are so afraid of what other people think about them. But if your heart is in the right place, there's nothing to be afraid of and not everybody's going to like you.

Taniastanly (01:26:20.575)
Yeah.

Taniastanly (01:26:36.137)
Hmm.

Summer Bacon (01:26:36.588)
Not everybody's gonna wanna hang out with you and that's okay. The more you're real with yourself and the more you give to the world of who you are, the more you'll find yourself in the community of people that really resonate with you that you can really enjoy. And that's what I'm so blessed with, my gosh. Like you, I got you.

Taniastanly (01:26:51.167)
Thank you so much, Samar. Thank you so much for coming on the podcast and for speaking to us. I had such a blast today. Thank you.

Summer Bacon (01:26:59.81)
Thank you, Tonya. Thank you. It's been a pleasure. Thank you. I feel very blessed. Thank you.