#35 Unlocking Spiritual Insights: Lessons from Deanne Rose Hope's Near-Death Experiences

Lynn K. Russell (00:00.831)
I just had to get the time. I'm not that inept, usually.

tania stanly (00:05.069)
Wow. Thank you. Thank you for doing that because you know, I contacted the app and then I fixed a lot of things. So did you get the reminders correctly? Yeah, my guests were not getting it before, which is why I had some mess ups before. So that was fixed. So I'm so glad I'm like, thank you, God, because you were like the first person who contacted me and asked me about it. The other ones did not do so like now that's fixed. So thank you. really appreciate it.

Lynn K. Russell (00:13.793)
Yes, I can't. Yeah, thank you.

tania stanly (00:34.35)
Thank you. All right. I'll just gonna start. Okay, it's recording on your side as well. Okay, one more thing. You see on the right side, it shows 73 % uploaded. 100 % uploaded. Under no, this is the right. Yeah. You don't see no problem. No problem. Even once we stop the no worries. Once we stop the recording, don't hang up. Just stay there.

Lynn K. Russell (00:35.444)
good, I'm glad I helped.

Lynn K. Russell (00:54.005)
I'm late in the rain.

tania stanly (01:03.97)
till it gets, yeah? okay, okay, cool. All right. All right, let's get started.

Lynn K. Russell (01:04.244)
Yes, I've had this before. Yeah.

tania stanly (01:24.674)
Hey, everyone today I'm super excited to welcome this amazing guest onto our podcast today. She has spent her entire life digging into spirituality, near-death experiences, religion and the science behind it all. Her research of over 2,500 near-death experiencers have uncovered wild insights that's going to completely shift your perspective on our reality and afterlife. So without any further ado, let's welcome Lyn Kay Russell onto the Selective World podcast. Welcome, Lyn, how are you doing today?

Lynn K. Russell (01:54.573)
Wonderful and thank you so much for having me.

tania stanly (01:57.888)
Lynn, can you tell us a bit about what inspired you to get onto this path of exploring near-death experiences?

Lynn K. Russell (02:06.861)
You know, I almost wonder if I wasn't guided because it started when I was like eight years old when my grandfather died and I was terrified of death. And I was raised in an atheist home. Religion was definitely not something we did. And so I was the only religious person in the family that was even curious about it. But anyway, 70 years ago this year,

I began searching for answers to what was death all about and what was going to happen to me when I died. I was just terrified of dying, basically. And because my atheist mom had told us that we just disappear when we die. And that made it even worse because I did not want to disappear at eight years old.

tania stanly (03:03.031)
Yeah.

Lynn K. Russell (03:04.025)
Not that I was dying then, but that was my mentality. my goodness. Anyway, that's what began it. And then I did all this research and I got involved with science as well, and particularly cosmology. And just fascinated and I just couldn't stop learning. And so then when I retired,

I was a family counselor for 30 years. And so when I retired, I went on to NDERF, which stands for Near Death Experience Research Foundation. And they were looking for someone to do research. So I had just retired, I had lots of time. So that's how it all began.

tania stanly (03:57.834)
That is when your dream career started.

Lynn K. Russell (04:02.045)
It was, it turned out to be the absolute perfect thing I should have done because what happened was then after I had studied a few hundred death experiences, near-death experiences, I began to see information that was deeper and the more spiritual, you know, and putting pieces together to a deeper, more profound...

thinking in spirituality.

tania stanly (04:35.446)
So once you started doing all of this research, how did your understanding of life and death change over time?

Lynn K. Russell (04:46.463)
I actually didn't find any answers until near-death experience information started coming out. Then I was great, but before that I didn't even think about it, know, except that my own, I was looking for traditional. And then when in the seventies, when the new age and more spirituality, not religion came out.

I jumped on that bandwagon and I looked at all the esoteric and ghosts and all of that kind of thing. then I eventually, when I went to the near-death experiences, that was when things, all that information that I had from my years of experience all started to fit together.

tania stanly (05:41.482)
Make sense. You also speak about your SBE in the book, right? Can you talk about it a lot more?

Lynn K. Russell (05:49.067)
Yeah, sure. Well, it happened when my child, I was a single parent at this point and I had three children and they were four, five and six. And so my two older ones were in kindergarten and grade one at this point in the afternoon. And my youngest one was down for an afternoon nap. And...

I'm not sure if she needed an afternoon nap, but I needed her to have one. anyway, I had three experiences that all fit together, and at least in my mind they did. And so they happened on different days at different times, but basically in the afternoon when things were quiet. And so the first experience I was doing the dishes.

tania stanly (06:22.047)
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Lynn K. Russell (06:46.189)
And there was a sink above the deck, sorry, a window above the sink. And I'm looking out the window, but I'm really not thinking about anything spiritual. And all of a sudden it was as if my consciousness was taken over. the apple tree that was in the yard became me and I became the apple tree. There was literally no...

difference between the apatree and myself. And then every kind of living form that I could think of, plants and other animals and whether they flew or they spammed or they were animals on land, I became it and it became me. And that was a really cool experience. And it only lasted maybe 30 seconds. I don't have time.

I didn't have the time to go by. So anyway, that was their first experience.

tania stanly (07:45.995)
Mm.

tania stanly (07:51.243)
So when you talk about that experience, right? Why did it create such a big impact on you? mean, what if you were like hallucinating or something like that? Like, did that thought occur? Why does it feel so real?

Lynn K. Russell (08:07.627)
Yeah, don't, well, because it did feel real and I never even thought of it being a hallucination. I was not on any meds or any drugs of any sort. So, I mean, I just didn't even think about it being a hallucination. But anyway, then I had more. So, if it wasn't hallucination,

tania stanly (08:34.237)
It's.

Lynn K. Russell (08:36.383)
It seemed to progress.

tania stanly (08:38.346)
What was it like being a tree?

Lynn K. Russell (08:42.893)
and being, sorry? You know, it was the essence of the apple tree. It was the essence of me. When I say I was the tree, it was the essence of the tree that I was and the essence of all life that I was. It wasn't that I felt like what it felt like to be a bird, but rather that that

tania stanly (08:44.113)
being that apple tree. What was it like being that apple tree?

Lynn K. Russell (09:11.977)
essence of that bird. Whatever the soul was me and I will. Yeah.

tania stanly (09:18.154)
Yeah. You know, I've heard this so many times, right, where people have this awakening or like, even a Mattias de Stefano is this guy who also talked about dimensions and all of that. And he also says that when he was a child, he was in front of a tree and suddenly he became the tree. So for someone who has not gone through that experience, I struggle to understand what it means. So that's why I ask you like, what was it like? But

Lynn K. Russell (09:35.853)
Bye.

tania stanly (09:46.154)
This is not the first time I've heard this. I've heard this so many times. I became that. I became everything. So that's interesting. And what was the next thing that happened?

Lynn K. Russell (09:58.125)
next one was again in the middle of the afternoon and I'm wiping fingerprints off the hall walls and it's a few days later. And all of a sudden again, my awareness was, I wasn't even aware of the wall. I saw an atom with the nuclei and the electrons going around.

And then I saw that expanded to our solar system with the sun and the planets going around and then our galaxy. And then just kept expanding from the micro to the macro universe. And during this expansion of all this is happening at the same time, I'm getting information. And it's that this didn't just happen, that there is order and planning.

and a consciousness, an intelligence behind all of this. And then I heard a message or got a message, I think is more like it. And it was very strong and it was so strong that I couldn't deny it. It was like as strong as my being is, you know, that I exist. the...

The information means that my being intricately connected with the operation of the universe. And I did not like that message at all. That scared me because I didn't know what that meant. What were they expecting of me? It was too big, too much, too big. And so because of my fear, it all stopped. But that was the message.

tania stanly (11:48.455)
Wow, you know, there is a reel that showed on Instagram where it's like, they were showing like this, know, like us human. I mean, I think it's like a cell and then it expands out and then becomes like this organ then expands out becomes a human being. Then they zoom out and it's the city zoom out and planet and it kept a galaxy. It zoomed out and at the end of all of it, it zoomed out to be a human being, like a man.

Lynn K. Russell (12:16.461)
I didn't see that one. that's very cool.

tania stanly (12:22.241)
Like a live, that's good one, right? Like an AI generated one where it's, I think it goes to show that at the end of it, are, what if we are everything inside God, like God is a person and then we are like these, these, these micro organisms inside. And so that's what came to my mind when you spoke about that experience. That's like amazing.

Lynn K. Russell (12:47.961)
Well, that actually fits with the theory I have. And I'm losing the track of the experiences. Do you want to do the experiences, or do you want to, like the last experience, or do you want to?

tania stanly (13:02.918)
You can talk about what you were about to say right now, no worries. What did it remind you of?

Lynn K. Russell (13:06.463)
Okay, what I was about to say, this is a new theory or well, new-ish that I, as I said before, I really am into science and quantum physics and how amazing it all is. I just get blown away by how amazing it is. Anyway, so this theory is that

The universe for me is a consciousness. The universe is conscious. And so this consciousness has created particles and the universe is full of particles. That's true with science. And so these particles are flashing constantly in and out of existence and flashing between particles and waves and

You know, they're just constant energy going, going, in the universe. And that's right here beside us as well. so these particles, when scientists do experiments, they find that these particles react to our consciousness. So they seem to know that, for example, when an experiment happens,

when the scientist is in the room, they get a different result than if they leave the room and just let the program run. So there's a completely different, it seems like there's a reaction if a consciousness is present. So that is amazing that these little particles, which are infinitesimally small.

And they make up the atoms, those little dot, you know, that's what an atom is made up of. And atoms are everything in the world we know of, including humans. And so then I take that and think about the original life forms in the world. I did warn you that I go different directions, but that's...

tania stanly (15:26.032)
I love it, I absolutely love it, yes.

Lynn K. Russell (15:29.133)
So I think about the original life form, an amoeba, or even before the amoeba, because an amoeba is a single cell organism. A single cell is made up of all kinds of different other pieces. So whatever that original something was, and then it became the single cell.

tania stanly (15:41.894)
Hmm.

Lynn K. Russell (15:56.531)
It joined together with other single cells and became some kind of a plant or an animal or a fish or whatever. And that expanded and expanded until it was a human being. So what I'm trying to say is that each one of our cells is alive. It's an individual life form. I see it, our cells in our body.

as being these life forms that have joined together and communicate. And it's almost like a colony like an ant or like bees and that kind of thing, where they all communicate with one another. we are, you know, it's... Yeah, and then when I do, so when I retire...

when I meditate, which I do every day, I think of my cells. I get to feel myself with love and then I fill my life and my every cell in my body with love and then send that love and tell and talk to myself. I tell them how wonderful they are and what a beautiful job they're doing and how amazing.

And yeah, because it stems right back to that consciousness again.

tania stanly (17:25.728)
Wow, you know what, was a guest who had come on my podcast where she remembered her past lives or something. Yeah, she remembered her past lives and one of her life was of her being an amoeba.

Lynn K. Russell (17:39.175)
yes, yes, I can believe that. Yes, absolutely.

tania stanly (17:43.555)
Yeah, she, she that's what she spoke about. And then when you spoke about how, you know, the experiments are influenced by the thought, that's also the, there is that light can be a wave and the particle you're talking about that experiment, right? Like, I mean, they said that, I mean, I don't remember so much. I'm not that good with science, there was this experiment where they said that light is a wave. But then depending on who is the observer, then it could behave as both a wave as well as a particle.

which is like the newest finding, right? Am I? I must be saying bullshit. That's amazing. So what was your third SPE?

Lynn K. Russell (18:15.777)
Yeah, yeah. That's cool.

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the third one was I was in my living room and I was tidying up and picking up toys and so on. And all of a sudden there was a presence in the living room with me and I couldn't see anything. All I saw was my living room, but I could feel this presence and more love than I can ever describe. I was just feeling this huge blanket of love.

being poured towards me and it was really cool. And then I felt myself connected somehow to this presence. And it wasn't an umbilical cord, it was just feeling like there was a connection somehow. And then I felt, I heard words and the words said, and this was in words this time, and it said,

that this is where I came from and this is where I will return. And I knew that that was for everybody, that this is where everyone came from and that this is where everybody returns. So that was...

tania stanly (19:38.884)
That must have felt amazing, right?

Lynn K. Russell (19:43.117)
That was the last one. But that one just blew me away. The love was so much that I was walking on air for days, for months. And my children's behavior and getting noise and things, because I'm very noise conscious, and didn't bother me at all. Nothing bothered me.

tania stanly (20:04.773)
Here we just blitzed out. I just got the final answer to my... That makes sense. You know, since because you hear these voices and you see things, Do you have... Do you like... Have you ever tried to channel or do healing work or things like that? Because you seem to be having all of these players. It never went that way.

Lynn K. Russell (20:08.095)
Yes!

Lynn K. Russell (20:30.477)
Yes, I am very psychic, I know that. And I've had many psychic experiences starting from, they began as far as I know, they began when I was 13. And maybe I had something before that, but I didn't pay attention. And so, yeah, I just know things. I hear things, I hear messages very often. My daughter died a few years ago.

about five years ago. Yeah, my oldest, she died of cancer. so, but I knew the date she was gonna die. I was told what day she was gonna die.

So I was prepared.

tania stanly (21:17.341)
So I'm like a little taken aback by that.

Lynn K. Russell (21:20.929)
Yeah, well, it was about nine years now, you know, I mean, I'm okay with it. And actually, the information from near-death experiences really helped me to deal with her death, yeah.

tania stanly (21:34.403)
Mm.

That makes sense. That makes sense. That makes sense as to why like you want to find out more about near-death experiences. Well, you know, personally for me, I got, I dived into all of these things because of a near-death experience video that I watched. And then I went more deeper and deeper. What? What is the next one? And then when I kept watching all of them, they all seem to have a similar theme, similar themes, right? That's when this, this whole idea that I had.

Lynn K. Russell (22:00.375)
Yes! Yes! Yes!

tania stanly (22:06.007)
What our church say? That disappeared. So let's talk about the near-death experience research that you've done. What are some of the common themes that you have seen?

Lynn K. Russell (22:16.641)
Well, there are about 31 common points. And so I can't list them all because I don't have them in front of me. But it would be things like feeling the love that everybody, everybody, everybody talks about, feeling connected to the whole universe that no matter what they were looking at, and some people did wind up.

well, souls, I guess they were, wound up in the universe with the stars and the planets and everything around them. And they felt like they were part of that, that that was them and they were them. There was no separation. It was just the same as my experience with the tree. But it was just this magnificent oneness. And another one was communication through telepathy.

and being able to travel by thought and those kind of things. Those are some of the illustrations of the things. But I want to stress something. Even though we have all of those elements that are the same, and there's many more, we each have an individual experience. No two experiences are exactly the same.

tania stanly (23:39.65)
Yeah.

Lynn K. Russell (23:43.157)
And the reason for that is because we create it. We create our, or have a role in creating our experience. So that's very important because in the same way that we create our death experiences, we are also creating this life experience. And we need to know that.

tania stanly (24:06.979)
That's amazing. You know, some of the one thing that I started seeing for all the near-death experiences is that before they have the near-death experience, they must have been going through something really difficult in their life, or they must be going through a sort of hopelessness or something, and they of wanted it happen. Did you see anything like that in your research? Did they have a common theme before the near-death experience?

Lynn K. Russell (24:36.449)
Yes, most of the near-death experiences are based on illnesses or an accident or some kind of medical issue. But yes, I do have, I have researched and I think it's called, just a second. It's not coming to me.

Anyway, it's a near death experience, but the person hasn't had an illness or died. It's usually through extreme stress or fear or they've lost someone and they can't let go and they need to connect to what happened to that person. And so that's usually what happens with these other kinds of...

I think they're NDE-like. I think it's a dash light.

tania stanly (25:34.399)
Hmm

Yeah, there was a guest who had come on my podcast. I think he was going through some examination thing. Like, so he was under extreme stress because he was doing medicine and he had to do an exam. And in that instance, while he was studying or something, he had a near death like experience and he felt like he became the son.

Lynn K. Russell (25:55.371)
Yeah, cool.

tania stanly (25:56.802)
That is Dr. Anoop Kumar, he had come on the podcast. It reminds me of that. What does near-death experience mean? Are there any parameters or something that's tangible and scientific where we can say that, okay, this person actually had a near-death experience? What are those things like? Do they actually die? What is it? How do know that it is a near-death experience? Can science prove that he had a near-death

Lynn K. Russell (26:27.169)
Yeah, there's different levels of near-death experiences. And that's very difficult because of all the, you know, well, and because of the deniers and that it's just a brain breaking down and all that kind of thing. And so...

And I can see why there's a bit of confusion because of all these levels. The first level is leaving the body. And some people leave the body, watch them resuscitating them, but they never go any farther. They stay if they're in an operation. They are there, or if they've been hit by an in a car accident or hit by a car or something, they're above that.

watching what's going on, but they never completely leave the Earth realm. Okay? So that's the first one. And that would be like an OBE or something like that. The second, yeah. And they may actually sometimes some of those will wander around the world and go and visit their, they'll see their parents or they'll see their latuans, know, their wife or their children or.

tania stanly (27:30.282)
Yeah, okay.

Lynn K. Russell (27:46.581)
or their husband or whatever. And so that's the first level. The next level is that they do go through the light. They either go through a tunnel, not everybody goes through the tunnel. It's only about half the people that go through the tunnel. The other half is split it amongst a bunch of other ways. And that would be that they may...

tania stanly (28:03.904)
you

Lynn K. Russell (28:13.437)
And the minute they leave their body, their loved ones are there waiting for them and take them to the other side. Or the light is right there and they see the light and they experience light. Or it could be that they go to the other side just immediately. They just immediately leave their body and they're there. Another way is that they'll find themselves in outer space, as I've already mentioned.

And so they, sorry, it's a thing this is pre-recorded. So.

tania stanly (28:51.936)
Yeah, they go out of the you said that they they go out and then they just directly get into that space

Lynn K. Russell (29:00.781)
Yeah, they're in outer space and they're connecting with the stars and planets and it's just mind boggling and they're thrilled. A lot of people will see themselves in blackness, complete blackness, there's nothing else. And then they'll see a prick of light that gets bigger and bigger and bigger. And either they're going faster to it or it's coming to them. And then they enter into the light.

they find themselves in different places. Now, that again is different levels. People will find themselves in a garden or they might find themselves where these magnificent buildings are. They might find themselves in...

meeting their loved ones and being greeted by their guides and being shown around by their guides at the same time. Some of them will not see, they'll see, they're not in a place, they will see their loved ones, but they're not surrounded by a Earth-like environment and they communicate.

with their loved ones and with their guides. And their guides will show them around and explain things to them and help them. And sometimes a loved one will do that. Sometimes they will see their deity, whatever their deity is, Jesus or Moses or Muhammad or something like that. whatever their...

day of the year, they'll see that entity and they will be again, that entity does exactly the same thing as a...

Lynn K. Russell (30:58.707)
as the guide does for the other people. So that's different levels. Some people are told they get to a point and they can't cross over. This is as far as they can go. And so I think those are people who have a near death experience, although it's very, very real. And so it's very confusing.

tania stanly (31:01.406)
Mm.

Lynn K. Russell (31:26.039)
But I think that's near death experiences when they get to a place where they can't cross over. But there are others who enter into the light and there's no block at all. They can go as far as they want. They're told you can stay or you can go. And I think those are people that actually died. yeah, but I also think

that it relates to their spiritual growth at the time of death. So I think that sometimes people will die and their spiritual growth is right here. Like they're not as developed. And so they have to go to the level that they have developed to, that their soul has developed to. Because I think the soul...

first decides to be a human or a life form. And that life form is very, very basic. And then it eventually evolves into humans. after humans, that evolves like to a primitive human to a very evolved human. And I think that people who are very spiritual are probably very old souls.

people who are after looking for, you know, your audience, for example, would be very old souls.

tania stanly (33:00.093)
This is something that I wanted to also, like I was thinking, because if you say that there are these different levels at which people go to, because I know there was Malcolm Nyer who came and he was also at that level where he said that he watched, witnessed his body after the car accident and then he traveled to this other part of the world and met his family there. So that was his experience. And then there were the other people who met the guides and the ascended masters.

So you spoke about this could be because of their spiritual growth. Does it have, if whatever you want to explain it in terms of frequency or dimensions.

Lynn K. Russell (33:38.497)
Yeah, what happens with people that have really evolved, they go directly into the light and they become the light, literally become the light. And they can witness themselves creating with the source, not with, as the source. They are the source, they become the source and they are...

the part of the creating. that's like, wow, yeah.

tania stanly (34:11.709)
That makes sense. was a guest who said that in the beginning. She had this near-death experience and then she wanted to recreate that experience again and again. So she would go into this meditation and she would try to do it but she would always reach near the light. I mean she would just be somewhere near the light but she never crossed over. You know like just like what you mentioned but eventually she did cross over down to the other side. So probably that's when her

spirituality level increase and she probably evolved by then. That makes perfect sense. Okay, so when you say...

Lynn K. Russell (34:44.289)
That's great. And I also think, okay, so I also think that becoming the light and becoming the creator, okay, so now people talk repeatedly about the love and consciousness. And the love, I believe the love is the essence of source.

I think that that is the very basic ethics of the source. And then I think that consciousness is consciousness. I think the source is consciousness. It's very alive. It's a live being and it has very, like, huge intelligence that we can't even conceive of, you know. And so, and the creation is.

consciousness in the universe and these particles. And I think particles are probably the very first thing that gets created. And it's sort of like, okay, here's a bunch of particles, go for it guys and do whatever you want with it. And then creation happens because the particles themselves are conscious. so creation happens by that.

tania stanly (36:09.328)
Wow. know, we are also, mean, particles, it makes sense because everything is conscious. You know, there's this book called A Course in Miracles and there are some of the exercises. It's channeled, apparently. It's a Jesus, a channeled book of Jesus. And it says that, you know, this chair is also God, like it's also source.

Lynn K. Russell (36:10.477)
I don't know it's same thing, but...

tania stanly (36:37.828)
This mic is also source. So that got me and I think that's also one of the reasons why in Hinduism they respect everything, right? They have a God for money, the goddess Lakshmi is for money, then different, different gods for animals. So it makes sense because everything is consciousness. mean, everything is source, everything is God. So it makes sense to me when you say that everything is consciousness.

You know I had a question which is if you have seen all of this in our in our religious books we talk about purgatory right? Do you know? Do you know what purgatory means?

Lynn K. Russell (37:14.637)
Well, no, there's no purgatory, I'm sorry. I have never, never, never met a person. I have, now wait a minute, there might be something that could relate. There are two things. If a person is really evil in this world and causes a lot of pain and suffering and or if they kill themselves, some...

tania stanly (37:21.84)
No.

Lynn K. Russell (37:44.429)
some of the people who kill themselves, not everybody, they go to this great place where they just, our souls wandering and wandering. And what they're doing, what those souls are doing is they're reliving and reliving and reliving experiences and trying to do it in a better way rather than do it in the way that they did. And I need to break, I'm having a sugar low.

and I need to sugar. I meant to have a cookie or something before I started. Okay. Okay. Okay. I'll be right back very, very soon.

tania stanly (38:15.107)
it please.

tania stanly (38:22.145)
That's okay. No worries. Take a break. I just put a marker there to get you take a break and drink water.

No worries, no worries. Take your time, take your time.

Lynn K. Russell (38:35.209)
Thank you.

Lynn K. Russell (41:47.297)
I'm so sorry.

tania stanly (41:53.815)
No, it's totally fine. Sometimes I want to be in between the podcast and I get very embarrassed to say that. But it is good. It's good that you're comfortable. We would be able to have a better conversation when you feel comfortable, you know.

Lynn K. Russell (42:07.211)
Yeah, yeah, I didn't have a choice. When I have a sugar low, I have to treat it.

tania stanly (42:16.205)
Yeah, that's good. Are you feeling better now?

Lynn K. Russell (42:19.157)
Yeah, I'm good. I'm good.

tania stanly (42:20.889)
Yeah, no problem. Even if you want to take more breaks, it's just totally fine. You can say, can do like this. This is the symbol signal. Okay. So

Lynn K. Russell (42:26.509)
I'm not

tania stanly (42:43.115)
Okay. So when you talk about near-death experience stories, have you come across ones where there is hell or hellish-like experiences that people go through? Because in all of our religious books, they talk about him a lot. Is it there? Is it real?

Lynn K. Russell (43:00.065)
I'm sorry, I don't understand the question.

tania stanly (43:03.481)
Okay, I'll repeat. so, so Lynn, can you tell us if hell or hellish like experiences have happened in any of those near-death experience stories that you came across? Is it real? Because all of our religious texts talk about it.

Lynn K. Russell (43:20.513)
Yes, yes, can. Yes, and I definitely have come across several hellish experiences. Some people have the hellish experience and return from the hellish experience and that's all they have. But other ones are taken out of that hellish experience and they're removed and they call out to

Sometimes they call out and sometimes they don't to tell you the truth. But most of the ones that get out of that situation have called out to God or to Jesus or to their deity, whatever that happens to be, their master. They call out to that person and then they're brought out of that situation.

And those are the ones that I know about. I don't know, so I don't know if what happened, if they died and they didn't, you know, get taken out. But with the ones who did get taken out, there's a very important lesson that comes with that. And that is that they will say when they get to the other, when they get to this positive loving place, what was that all about?

tania stanly (44:30.264)
Mm.

Lynn K. Russell (44:49.957)
And they're told that was your creation. That was what you thought you deserved or that you thought should happen. And so, as I've said before, we create our own death experiences and we also create, you know, that kind of experience as well, because some people are beautiful people, but they've been told so often that they're going to go to hell.

that they go to hell because that's what they're told. Even though they're absolutely beautiful human beings. By the way, my most important message is to tell every single soul in this whole world how magnificently beautiful they really are. Because that is the truth. We are so magnificent, so marvelous.

and we don't even know it. When I was a family counselor for 30 years, I was shocked at how many people hated themselves. I mean, they would treat themselves worse than if they were a criminal. And it was so sad because really in real life, they're absolutely fantastic, magnificent. I can't think of a stronger word.

than magnificent and I wish I could. anyway, you can accomplish anything you put your mind to except within the physical loss. Like you can't fly without wings or something. But other than that, mean like accomplishments. When I was a little girl and this fits in, I was assessed as mentally slow.

And I was put in special classes for kids who were mentally slow. And it was called the opportunity class. then when I was an adult, I found out that I was well above average in intelligence. I mean, had, but we're going back to the forties and they didn't know about dyslexia or ADHD or any of those things. That was just, they didn't even know about it.

tania stanly (46:53.046)
you

Lynn K. Russell (47:15.103)
So, I mean, I can understand their assessment. And I did a very good job of living up to it. I acted slow. the thing is that people made decisions for me. And so I didn't know how to make decisions. And when I got married and it was a bad marriage and I left it.

tania stanly (47:25.683)
No.

tania stanly (47:32.182)
you

Lynn K. Russell (47:42.903)
Then I didn't, it was terrifying because I didn't know how to make decisions. And I learned by the seat of my pants, really. But the other part of that is that who was I? Because I had always been this other person, this slow person who didn't know anything. And all of a sudden I'm not and I have to rebuild me. I had to get an image.

of what I thought I should be like. And I lived up to that until I am who I am today. That's point of it. The other thing is that I had to challenge myself to find out what I could do. What could I do? I mean, I wouldn't have even thought of getting involved in quantum physics as of earlier. And yet now, I mean, I just love it.

I can't get enough. So my message going back to what I'm trying to say is don't shortchange yourself. Challenge yourself. Find out what you can and can't do. If you love something and you weren't able to go in that direction, go into it on a hobby or as a half part time. If the door is always open, there's never a closed door.

tania stanly (49:09.232)
That's a very important message because from my own personal experience when you said that you know a lot of the people think that they are bad people I also considered myself to be a bad person and like it was in this year or like when I started experiencing or started watching all of these videos like these new experiences of channelers and all of that I realized that even if we make mistakes we're just learning through that you don't have to

Because the way I was considering it was that I made a mistake. So that said I need to suffer. So then I didn't have an end point to when I should stop suffering. And then I realized that it's like, okay, I need to suffer, but till when? Like till how long? don't know. So constantly I would always, even if I know something is not good for me, I would be like, this is good enough because I don't deserve the best kind of a thing. So it's...

Lynn K. Russell (50:01.165)
tania stanly (50:02.17)
Yeah, it's just, and it's something that, mostly it's our parents who would say stuff unknowingly or, you know, unconsciously where they would say stuff, but probably they always have good intentions. They want us to exceed their expectations. So they would say stuff, but then it does get etched in your mind. So your message that you said is so, so important. It's so important.

Lynn K. Russell (50:21.613)
You

Lynn K. Russell (50:26.571)
Yeah, I agree. I wish the whole world would know because then we wouldn't have these wars. We wouldn't have the kind of strength and pain that we have.

tania stanly (50:41.236)
So one of the neat things when in the Bible that everyone talks about after death is the judgment day. Did you come across that in the near-death experiences?

Lynn K. Russell (50:52.257)
Yeah, the life review. The life review, during that, people did not get judged. They judged themselves. They were the only ones who did the judging. And basically, that was it. If they got too angry with themselves and they started to really put themselves down,

tania stanly (50:55.273)
Yeah.

Lynn K. Russell (51:19.629)
their guides would say, it's okay, it was just a learning experience. So you can relax. I thought it was fascinating that, because I've talked about the oneness and how we all are, I'm you and you are me and I'm all the people that are. If I see pictures of seas of people, I know every one of those is me. But the essence of me, not me, the personality, the essence. Anyway,

tania stanly (51:43.08)
Yeah.

Lynn K. Russell (51:49.485)
So I just, I've lost my train of thought, sorry.

tania stanly (51:53.842)
the judge's review, life review.

Lynn K. Russell (51:57.165)
yeah, the life review. I think it's fascinating that because of the oneness that we actually become the other person that we've been dealing with and feel exactly what they feel. And then what that person, the next person that that person deals with and on down the line until it becomes like an echo.

tania stanly (52:08.34)
No.

tania stanly (52:22.388)
So for those of you who don't know what life review is, it's the experience where people have after they die, they get to see everything that has happened in their life and they get to see it from their perspective and the perspective of the other person. So if you have done something bad to someone else, you see it also from their perspective that you did something bad against and you would also feel everything that they were feeling. You know, that is the, yeah.

Lynn K. Russell (52:23.745)
The pizza.

Lynn K. Russell (52:38.219)
Yes.

Lynn K. Russell (52:48.461)
And so people often say, I wish that so-and-so would be able to feel exactly what I feel, you know, when they're angry. But they do. They really do.

tania stanly (52:57.748)
you

tania stanly (53:01.639)
Okay

tania stanly (53:05.192)
They do, right? That gives me some peace. I'm joking. Okay, so if that is the case, how can, like since you know that there's going to be a live preview, is there any way that I can, is there something that I can do right now while I'm alive where I get to have a very smooth live preview?

Lynn K. Russell (53:24.567)
Well, yes, you can be kind and caring and loving and do all that you possibly can and really think about your decisions because they affect others.

tania stanly (53:36.935)
What if I have done something bad against someone?

Lynn K. Russell (53:41.773)
Well, lots of times it's not able, you're not able to go back and correct that. If that's possible, then you could do that. But if it's not possible, then it's a learning experience. see it from that perspective. Don't see it like, I'm bad, I hurt that person. See it more as a point of, what did I learn from that?

What could I gain from that experience? How can I use it in my future?

tania stanly (54:16.371)
When you look at all of these experiences that they've had, have you seen any difference between the near-death experience that the Buddhists have versus a Hindu or versus a Christian or a Muslim? Because I don't know if Buddhists believe in hell, but for sure, Muslims and Christians believe in hell. And their idea of hell is very scary. have you seen any difference between

them and their experiences based on their religious beliefs.

Lynn K. Russell (54:48.013)
Well, there's the basic Judaism religions that have stemmed from Judaism. So that would be Judaism, Christianity and Muslim. And those, all those have very similar death experiences because they have the same base of thinking. Hindu, they have a different experience, but they still see the light.

and enter into the light and those kind of things. But their experience would be different because they build a different experience for themselves. And it's based on belief.

tania stanly (55:27.888)
Interesting.

Have you had any, have you researched any NDEs with the tribal people?

Lynn K. Russell (55:40.013)
No, no, I haven't actually. And one of the, I think nice things, but maybe not, was the research I did. I should explain. I was on, as I told you, NTERF. And so people wrote into NTERF and wrote out their experience and then they answered a huge, huge questionnaire.

And I would take that questionnaire and tear it apart and look at this one and look at that. And how many people had saw the light and how many people had enhanced experience? know, that's one of the things, elements of that happens to almost everybody is that there is so much real, more real than here. And that causes real difficulty for people when they come back.

because it readjusting to this world that seems like it's an illusion or a dream, it's not real. And that's very hard for the people. And so, yeah, where was I?

tania stanly (56:53.873)
I was asking about the NDEs for the tribal people. There was one episode where I watched about this guy who was actually doing a research on the NDEs for the tribal people and apparently instead of going through the tunnel, they go down the tree hole.

Lynn K. Russell (57:00.493)
Thanks.

Lynn K. Russell (57:12.245)
Yeah, see that would be the kind of thing I'm talking about where we would create our own experience. so that was, yeah. And people, one of the things that I want to stress is that because we have each our own experience, we cannot use our experience and say that's what happens to everybody. That's not what happens to everybody.

tania stanly (57:18.833)
Yeah.

Lynn K. Russell (57:39.063)
There are general, you know how being human, we can walk, we can talk, we can talk to each other, we can do things like this. We can make music and build things. We have laws that we live under as human beings. And it's the same when you pass over on the other side, there's laws and those laws are that you can talk telepathically and

that you can travel everywhere. But here's the thing, you can do all that thing because you are one entity. There is only one entity and that entity is Source. And that entity is us. And here's another thing, we have never left Source. We are presently right now, this second, we are still with Source.

and we are creating this experience.

tania stanly (58:40.922)
Yeah, that is true. One of the things that you mentioned in NDEs about the miraculous healing that people go through, right? Why does that happen? The healing that people go through after an NDE, they heal so fast.

Lynn K. Russell (58:57.763)
yes. Yes, that's not common, but it does happen. Yes, people...

Yes, come back completely healed. But I think, and other ones don't, they come back and they still have to deal with whatever it is. But before the soul, when the soul decides it's going to be a human being, then the soul chooses a goal that it wants to accomplish here in the world. And then it chooses all the elements that will help them.

help that individual get to that goal and to accomplish it. The goals, our purpose, our goal is always for the betterment of the world, always. Or for the individual, one or the other, like their personal growth. So that's one of the parts. But the other thing is that we choose events. We don't choose every event that ever happened in our lives.

We choose the events that will guide us to our goal. We choose the people in our lives, not every single person, but those who will help us to get to our goal, no matter how much effect they have in our lives. Like somebody who's in and out again, or long-term. And we also choose all the elements of ourselves. So we choose

what we look like, are we going to be handsome, are we going to be not quite so much, are we going to be intelligent, are we going to be, what race are we going to be, what country, what economic level, what intelligence, all of those things get chosen. And then when we come here, that is the conditions we have. And we also choose our death and illnesses.

Lynn K. Russell (01:01:05.909)
or disadvantages. So all those things are chosen ahead of time. So when you talked about the healing, they don't heal because that's part of the goal. That's part of the thing that they needed to have in order to get to where they wanted to be.

tania stanly (01:01:24.74)
That makes sense. Cause even some of them have said that I think in Dolores Cannon's healing sessions, the past life regressions, she goes into certain lifetimes and they talk about, was this one guy who was in Al-Kumran, the one where Jesus was with, I forgot the whole story. mean, I'm forgetting the word. So one of them said that he died of cancer in that lifetime. And then they asked,

why did you die of cancer? So they pulled them out of that and they are now the higher self and to do they look at how their life went by. And they said that because I had lessons to learn through that disease.

Lynn K. Russell (01:02:08.577)
Yes! Yes!

tania stanly (01:02:09.966)
Being sick.

Lynn K. Russell (01:02:11.735)
Yeah, exactly.

tania stanly (01:02:13.679)
I think it's a relief to get to know that because it's true that when you are sick, when you have certain parts of your body which is not functioning, that's when you start to probably reflect and sit and think or maybe you become more on the receiving mode. You allow people to take care of you. A lot of the things, there's a lot of lessons that happen as well when you're going through that. So let me ask you about reincarnation. What has been your research or what has been your findings on reincarnation?

Lynn K. Russell (01:02:39.467)
Okay.

Lynn K. Russell (01:02:44.685)
Well, actually, yes, it is true. Very often people who have committed suicide have to come back to another life that is exactly the same as the one they just left because they have to overcome whatever it was that drove them to suicide.

tania stanly (01:03:06.638)
Okay. And what about the ones who did not commit suicide? Why do they have to reincarnate? Why do people reincarnate?

Lynn K. Russell (01:03:13.657)
Well, we all reincarnate. Okay, that's a good question actually, because our existence gives to the source. We are presently giving. So why I said that we are source, that we are creating this moment and that we are creating ourselves in this lifetime. So why are we here? Well, we're here because

We are giving back to Source. If Source didn't have us or the universe and all the other lifetimes, life sources and so on, it would not know that it existed because, well, it might know it existed, but it would exist in nothingness. There's nothing but Source. There's only one Source. So what did Source use to create with?

itself because that's all it had. was a source and nothing. So it creates in order to know its own being.

Lynn K. Russell (01:04:25.835)
And we are part of it. We just take a part of it.

tania stanly (01:04:30.2)
Yesterday I think we had a guest who came through and she said that Diane Rose, also said the same thing which is that source wants to experience, if you're eating this food, source wants to experience what it is like to have this food. Or maybe you're going through a sickness, source wants to experience what it's like to go through that sickness. So anything that you're doing, you're doing it for source because source wants to know what it feels like.

Lynn K. Russell (01:04:55.799)
Yeah, absolutely. That's absolutely true.

tania stanly (01:05:00.449)
That is beautiful. Is there any other different aspect or any other common theme that has come through which actually stood out to you? Like a story that stood out to you that way you went, what is that real? Or maybe what? I knew it all along. Is there any story that stands out to you?

Lynn K. Russell (01:05:18.733)
I have one. Actually, there were several, but one was a lady who committed suicide. generally, the people whose bodies are still intact and they can, like drugs or something like that, that they can, you know, it's still functional, the body, then they're sent back, usually.

But this particular lady, she committed suicide through, I think she took pills, ton of pills. I don't know what they were. Anyway, and then she laid down on the couch and was waiting for death to happen. And her book is called...

Dead is a four-letter word. So, and I love her experience and her writing and her experience is beautiful. But anyway, she was one of the people who entered into the light and became, and she didn't become the light. She saw herself still as separate, but all this love was coming to her. And she was blown away because she's saying, I shouldn't be getting a lot. I committed suicide.

I committed a sin. I should be punished. And here all this love, love, love was coming. And so that was a beautiful experience. And the way she talks about it was a beautiful experience as well. And her book, A D.W., if you go to N.D.U.R.F. and look up D.W. N.D.E., you'll see her book, and it's for free.

So you can just read it. But her experience there is read. You can read it too.

tania stanly (01:07:13.642)
No, that's a beautiful one.

Lynn K. Russell (01:07:15.809)
Yeah, yeah, it was. There's another one. It's not on NDERF. It's Melon Thomas Benedict. Melon Thomas Benedict was a man who was very bitter against the world. He was a bitter, bitter person.

So, and so he hated the world, he hated people, he thought that they were all evil, you know. And so he died of cancer. And as he's traveling, and this is a very important lesson, as he's traveling through the tunnel to wherever, he says, wait a minute, stop.

And everything stopped because as I said, we are creating it. And that's a good example. Anyway, he said to nothing, that's whatever, because he didn't know what or who he was talking to. He said, I want to think about this. And then he said, I want to go to the very beginning of it.

tania stanly (01:08:14.228)
you

Lynn K. Russell (01:08:34.305)
when this all began and he did. That's when boom, was there. And he watched our universe being created and how, I mean, he was taking part in the creation and helping creator being the source creating. And it was a wonderful experience. But then when he was coming back and he was cured of his cancer, when he came back,

He asked his guides, now he's got guides, and he asked the guide, well, do you mean there's no evil people? And the guide said, there are no evil people anywhere. It is our thoughts and our actions that cause the evil. It's our thoughts. And when you think about it, when you really, really, really think about it hard, you think,

Everything that we are and everything that we basically do comes from thought first. Thought is the most important and that goes back to the consciousness.

tania stanly (01:09:50.89)
These two stories are fascinating because you never think that someone who has gone through a suicide would feel all the love that they spoke about. And then I didn't know you could stop at the tunnel because I thought it's like a vacuum or something where you're like sucked into it and you don't know what's up.

Lynn K. Russell (01:09:51.213)
and creative.

Lynn K. Russell (01:10:11.283)
Yeah, there's another lady by, by the way, you can read Melon Thomas Benedict's NDE online. Just Google his name. It's there. So, but there was another lady, because keep in mind, we're the creators. So there's this lady going up in the tunnel and she was halfway up and she said, wait a minute, this isn't real.

I'm creating this. So then she deliberately created for herself different scenarios and she became it. She was there. It was as real as this.

tania stanly (01:10:57.386)
I love the end. Okay, Lyn if that is the case, right? If you were someone who could have the ability to create, have you thought about what you would create? Like what would your fantasy world be?

Lynn K. Russell (01:11:12.471)
fantasy world? well, I don't see that man or humans could live without strife or difficulties. We will always have some kind of difficulty that we need to work with through because that without difficulties, we don't grow. I've known people like that where their lives are, you know, very lovely and sweetness and light. But

tania stanly (01:11:22.794)
Mm.

tania stanly (01:11:34.442)
Mm.

Lynn K. Russell (01:11:41.665)
They're just very small people, you know? So you have to have strife to grow. And not only that, but the source needs that experience. And another thing is that each one of us creates a different reality because I may have the same problem as somebody over here, but that person's gonna deal with their issue quite differently than I would.

or that somebody else would. So each one of us is creating our own reality and our own way of dealing with things.

tania stanly (01:12:21.514)
Hmm. That makes sense. Like, you know, a lot of people say that they once we reached there, they didn't want to come back. Right. So does it mean that everybody who died, they actually picked it like everybody who were, you know, about to transition, they were given the choice whether to stay back or not. And they actually picked to go to the other side.

Lynn K. Russell (01:12:47.501)
Yeah, yeah, yeah. They really hate coming back here. Most of them. Some of them recognize right away, I can't stay. I know that I am not finished and I have to go back and finish whatever it is that I've agreed to do. But most of them don't. Most of them fight. You know, sometimes some of them have temper tantrums. You know, just get into it.

Yeah. So you do have feelings on the other side too. As a matter of fact, when you leave your body, you are exactly, you feel exactly the same as you do now. There's no difference. You don't all of a sudden become spirit and airy-fairy or whatever. You are exactly the same as you are in your body because it's your soul that's inside the body, operating the body and

We are source, we are the soul and the soul is source. And that soul that's in us is pumping the blood and our breathing and all those things that work automatically, that's soul, doing the work.

tania stanly (01:14:02.792)
I love that. Do you believe in parallel world?

Lynn K. Russell (01:14:07.915)
All right. Sorry.

tania stanly (01:14:09.202)
We believe in Padman world, Padman universe and Padman world.

Lynn K. Russell (01:14:17.601)
I don't, I'm not hearing it. It's a family book.

tania stanly (01:14:20.137)
Do you parallel do you believe in parallel? lives and worlds where there is me here, but if I pick instead of Billy I decide to get married to Raymond then there is me who is still living a life with Billy and then there is me who's also living a life with Raymond there are two parallel existences

Lynn K. Russell (01:14:46.413)
by location. Yes, it does happen. Yeah, it can happen at the spirit level. And yes, definitely. As a matter of fact, yeah, because sometimes a person is up above watching, but they're awake and they're answering questions and being, you know, they're operational.

tania stanly (01:14:59.781)
Interesting.

tania stanly (01:15:09.448)
Hmm.

Lynn K. Russell (01:15:16.231)
and they're still out of their body. That doesn't happen a lot. These are exceptions to the rule.

tania stanly (01:15:20.68)
Mmm.

tania stanly (01:15:27.688)
That makes total sense. So what are some of the new projects that you've been working on or initiatives that you have?

Lynn K. Russell (01:15:35.629)
my goodness, I have so many goals and so many things I want to do. I told you about the self thing. I want to write a book on that. I, because I think that if people could talk and give love to their selves and see them as living beings, I think they would be much happier and healthier, you know? So I think it make an effect on their health as well.

tania stanly (01:16:01.48)
you

Lynn K. Russell (01:16:05.153)
because it would sort of be like the visualization kind of concept. So I think that, but another thing I want to write is I want to write a book that's called The Star of Consciousness. And it's a little bit difficult for me to write it because it's, I want to write it in everyday, down to earth kind of language that,

everybody can understand and to talk about different kinds of scientific experiments that prove our spirituality. So for example, particles having consciousness, that kind of thing, or recognizing consciousness or whatever. Anyway, so that's another thing I want to write. And so I have five different points. And so the star.

consciousness. then another thing I want and that I've just written and is presently this is my newest book and that is it's called just a minute I'm sorry okay it's Beyond NDEs the next step in near-death experience research.

tania stanly (01:17:17.328)
Worth it. Worth it.

Lynn K. Russell (01:17:29.621)
I also would like to take a minute to talk about Warple. Warple is my children's book. And that is a book, it's for preteens. So nine-ish to about 13, that range. And so the book talks about a boy, he's 13 year old, Cam. And Cam,

tania stanly (01:17:34.18)
Yes.

Lynn K. Russell (01:17:58.189)
lives in the projects because he's with a single parent mom and he doesn't like his life. He hates being there and he's very much, he's bigger and he's a husky boy and he's got, you know, he looks bigger than everybody. So they're constantly being teased and not teased, by a group. so Jason and his gang. And so he's really quite upset about it.

And he's starting to get into danger. He has a couple of good friends that he's had for years and years, but he's also starting to get into a little rougher kind of crowd because they accept him. So anyway, he wants to be a football player in order to get out of the projects and get to university and have a good life. And so he is into football big time. He thinks that that

If he could be a really good football player, then he could go through university on a scholarship. So that's his dream. he's, but the coach for the football insists that they have good grades. He won't take them on. They must keep their grades up. So.

tania stanly (01:19:20.038)
you

Lynn K. Russell (01:19:25.899)
Well, he's doing a homework assignment. He comes across a creature named Bream. And Bream is a creature from another dimension called Whirlpool. And so Bream takes Cam with him to Whirlpool. originally it's just going to be a little visit, but they get over there and they're doing whatever they're doing. And...

And they realized that there's an evil magician that has entered into this land. And this land is filled with warm, fuzzy little creatures that are just loving and caring and have never had a war. They've never had any, I mean, they have problems, but they don't ever have a war. And so they don't know how to deal with this evil. And so...

Cam is recruited to help. And so they travel across Fort Paul to go to Zarlok, and Zarlok is the wise old man. And so on the way they have lots of adventures and a lot of magic and cool stuff that happens. And Cam gets into trouble all the time because he's not listening to the rules.

And he learns that we're all connected. He learns that anger and hostility bounces back at you. He learns that caring and giving is contagious and it's not wimpy, it's a good quality thing to do. And he also learns that love is the most powerful thing there is in the universe. And that's done through

There's silly situations and there's other situations that are dangerous. And just...

tania stanly (01:21:29.355)
a uni concept.

Lynn K. Russell (01:21:31.853)
Pardon? Pardon?

tania stanly (01:21:33.112)
This is such a unique concept. We need more of these stories. although you said this book retains, to me it sounds like something that even an adult should read. It sounds like you are touching upon the loss of the universe.

Lynn K. Russell (01:21:42.197)
Yeah, that's it.

Lynn K. Russell (01:21:46.615)
Well, actually, adults love it. They just rave about it. They just love it. Anyway, the name of the book, the children's book, is Warped Book, and my book, the NDE book is Beyond NDE's, What the Near Death Experience Tells You About Yourself.

tania stanly (01:22:10.606)
Beautiful! You know, I have a five-year-old daughter and I would love for her to know these kind of stories and I tried to read the Bible to her but you halfway through I had to try to you know I told her that God had to take some ribs from Adam to make Eve and she got up and she bent stooped low and she's like okay so doesn't mean that Adam was stooping down the rest of his life because he didn't have the two ribs

So for the kids, just couldn't, like nothing made sense in the Bible for me to read it to her. But I would want her to know about the laws of the universe, right, for our children. So I hope you would write something for under, you know, like under four or five, six years old as well.

Lynn K. Russell (01:22:52.534)
one.

Yeah, I've got the other books. another one I need to write is, everybody tells me, I had a rough life when I was a child. It was very rough. And then the separation and divorce was horrible, just awful. And so people tell me repeatedly, because here I am, very positive and loving, and I'm so excited about life, and I love life.

tania stanly (01:23:05.998)
Mm.

Lynn K. Russell (01:23:23.185)
And I love being old. I don't mind being old at all, you know.

tania stanly (01:23:23.491)
Yeah.

You look stunning! You've redefined what it means to be old. Like I was just telling them in the telling Lynn at the beginning of the podcast I love how beautiful Lynn looks today with the red color like I'm like I need that so

Lynn K. Russell (01:23:31.373)
No.

Lynn K. Russell (01:23:34.925)
Thank

Lynn K. Russell (01:23:44.225)
Yes. Thank you. So I just, you know, I think that we need to get excited about light and challenge ourselves, I already said, and don't shortchange ourselves.

tania stanly (01:23:58.115)
I love that. Lynn, it has been such a pleasure speaking to you today. You are such a positive person. Like, although we ended on saying you're a positive person, like the curiosity that you have towards everything, wanting to learn, that's what keeps you positive and young. And it's been such a pleasure speaking to you. Thank you so much for coming and speaking to us, Lynn, today. Can you tell us where we can find you?

Lynn K. Russell (01:24:20.301)
yeah, sure. I can be found easy. Just Google my name and there's a list. I'm on Facebook, I'm on LinkedIn. I am on Instagram, but I don't know how to use it. So I'm there, but don't send me anything because I won't be able to. The other thing is I also have my website, LynnKRussell.com.

And there was contact there. You can contact me.

tania stanly (01:24:56.451)
All of these links that's mentioned will be in the show notes as well. So head over to the show notes and then you would find these links over there. Lynn, do you have any final message for us?

Lynn K. Russell (01:25:03.938)
Please.

Well, just what I've already said that love yourself. Really, really, I mean it. Pay attention to the reality that you are because you really are magnificent because you're source. How can the creative force of the universe not be magnificent?

tania stanly (01:25:28.131)
I love that. Thank you so much, Linh, and I hope we will speak again very soon. Thank you.

Lynn K. Russell (01:25:34.933)
Yes, yes, thank you.