#43 What will earth look like in 100 years? TOP NDE Researcher Reveals the TRUTH!

taniastanly (00:01.059)
Hello everyone, today I'm super excited to welcome David Suich onto the Celeste Ball podcast. Hi David, how are you doing today?

David Suich (00:08.354)
Hello, I'm doing well. Thank you so much for inviting me to be on your show.

taniastanly (00:12.238)
David, tell us what inspired you to get onto this journey of exploring 700 near-death experiencers? What was it like? What happened?

David Suich (00:22.574)
Well, actually 700 was, I was counting and that's what it was at the time I wrote my book. Now 18 years later, it's probably over around 1200, somewhere around there. And what got me inspired was a painful experience that caused me to lose my faith. So I was a Christian and I came down in 2000, actually 1999, I came down with chronic tendonitis and it started in my hands and it went to my feet and then to my jaw. And it was really debilitating.

taniastanly (00:32.129)
No.

David Suich (00:52.462)
and I had it for 20 years and just recently in the last five years or so I healed completely from it. this was 2007, I had had chronic tinnitus for eight years and it just got me really depressed and I came to this conclusion that, because I was a Christian, and it says ask and it will be given, and I'd been prayed for by churches and people and no healing. And so I thought, well, one of two things is going on here, either God doesn't exist or more likely,

God exists, but I'm the son that is the screw up, you know, that he doesn't want anything to do with me because I'm not a good Christian. And so was during that time in 2007 when YouTube was fairly new. It was only two years old. There wasn't like, there's whole channels now like yours, 345 videos about near-death experiences and spirituality. But back then it was hard to find, you know, one a month on YouTube that talked about near-death experiences, but I wasn't even looking. didn't even, you know, the subject wasn't even my mind. And a video just was in my feed, in my YouTube channel.

And I clicked on it and it was about an atheist who died, saw the afterlife and returned. And that got me started on an 18 year journey into near-death experiences and it changed every aspect of my life. It brought me a lot of peace and joy. It healed the relationships that were kind of dysfunctional with my family. It changed the friends that I have. It changed my attitude towards nature, towards politics and all this other stuff. And it had all these positive changes in my life. I'm.

Very grateful for all the people who have freely shared their nerd-like experiences because you saved me and I know you've encouraged a lot of other people.

taniastanly (02:25.879)
You know, for me too, it was one near-death experience that got me onto this whole thing that I'm in. Because I think it's much more easier to understand a near-death story than when someone talks about awakening and these complicated topics. It doesn't resonate, but a near-death experience, because everyone is afraid of death. When you talk about the atheist story, what is it that triggered you? Like, can you explain a little bit more about what made you resonate with what that person said?

David Suich (02:54.22)
Well, know, in Christianity, I had been taught, you know, God loves you. He loves you so much. But you know, if you break his rules, he's going to burn you in hell forever. And what really triggered me to answer your question is that this guy was an atheist. He was a militant atheist, Howard Storm. Some of you probably know his testimony that are watching. And he dies. He doesn't believe in the afterlife. And he finds himself outside of his body and all this stuff happens to him. And he finally calls out. He was having a negative experience and calls out to heaven for help.

taniastanly (03:01.812)
Yep.

David Suich (03:24.376)
calls out to Jesus for help. And Jesus isn't like the Jesus of the Bible. He's kind of like the core of God that works directly with human beings. So I'm not talking about religion here. I'm talking about one of the many spirits that helps us. And so he calls out to help and Jesus comes and gets him. And they're taking him towards heaven, towards this really beautiful place of light and love and beauty. And he thinks to himself, I've been so bad, you know.

taniastanly (03:33.036)
Hmm.

David Suich (03:51.63)
I don't deserve to be there. I'm garbage. I'm scum. I'm filth. And they stop. And Jesus looks at them and says, we don't make mistakes. You belong here in heaven with us. And when he said those words, it just melted my heart because I realized, you know, I thought that my heavenly father had abandoned me, didn't care about me. And when he said those words, it was like, okay, God cares about me. Of course, later in my near death experience research, I learned that

You know, God doesn't just love us. It's just over the top adoration. You know, that's how much he loves us. Like you'll see these parents that have these kids and they can do no wrong. know, they just, my child's wonderful. It's just most perfect person in the whole wide world. The most greatest kid a parent could have and blah, And just loves them, pours out this love. And you take that love and you multiply it by a thousand and you don't come close to how God feels about us. So, you know.

We have this idea that we've got to behave well to be loved and to be accepted and nothing is further from the truth. He loves us and adores us no matter what we do and everybody when they leave here eventually goes home, back home to heaven.

taniastanly (05:05.482)
You know, it's true that in church, think, so I'm also a Catholic and I think all my life I went to church just so that I could, you know, like giving attendance so that I would get what I need in this materialistic world. Right. So I've come here now you got to give me the, yeah, I a point. Okay. So I'm like trying to score points every time. And then when something happened in my life, I was like, what is this? Where are my points enough? Like where did I go wrong?

David Suich (05:20.622)
Yeah, get the point.

taniastanly (05:35.113)
Why is this happening? So I got really pissed off because it's like an unfair teacher in school where we both did the same thing, but how come she got better grade than I did? So I broke up with Jesus and I broke up with everybody in church. And then it was like a few years, nothing. And then this near-death experience. And like you, after that one near-death experience, when you hear this one story, then you dive deeper in like, what, is this true? And you start listening to more near-death experiences to see

David Suich (05:44.61)
Yes.

taniastanly (06:04.67)
Is it true? And then you see there is a common theme amongst all of these stories. In your research, what were some of the common themes that you came across?

David Suich (06:06.199)
Yes.

David Suich (06:17.218)
Well, the most common theme is the love.

taniastanly (06:21.323)
Hmm.

David Suich (06:21.902)
And they all talk about that, the love of heaven. And they say things like, you know, imagine the hundred happiest moments of your life, put them all in one moment, you don't come close. Or think of the strongest love you've felt and multiply it by a thousand. Some people said multiply it by a million and you still don't come close. So just overwhelming, unconditional love. And, you know, I say the word love and that's a human word. That's the closest word we have, but it is totally inadequate to describe.

the love of heaven, and I'll give you little example. If I were to tell you, Tanya, I'm out in the desert and I'm looking in front of me at my feet and there's a hole in the ground in front of me, like a big hole, and it's a nice looking hole. Well, what image are you getting? Not much of one. And then you go where I am and it's the Grand Canyon. So the love is the very.

The most common theme is the overwhelming unconditional love. You're loved no matter what you do. It doesn't matter what you did on earth, good or bad, you are loved just as much. There's not one thing that any human being could do, no matter how horrible that would make our heavenly father, mother, know, God doesn't have a gender, it contains all that's masculine and feminine. Nothing a human being can do to make God love us one bit less. And of course, there's the feeling of familiarity. I'm coming home. yes, this is where I came from.

taniastanly (07:41.866)
Hmm.

David Suich (07:45.922)
This is my home. I was just having this temporary adventure as a human being on earth. So kind of like the opposite of an atheist. An atheist thinks we're human beings pretending that there's a God. Well, the reality is we're little facets of God pretending to be human. And we have this experience where we limit our consciousness and we have amnesia so that we can play the game of the fear love duality. And we go back home and it's more familiar now. It's like, this is where I came from. There's a feeling of safety.

taniastanly (08:00.242)
Hmm.

David Suich (08:14.286)
of I'm protected, nothing can happen to me. I'm immortal. There's beauty in heaven. Just observing with the senses, there's beauty beyond words. We have three primary colors, red, blue, and green, or red, blue, and yellow sometimes. And mixture of those three colors make all the colors of the rainbow. There's over 80 primary colors in heaven. So there's these beautiful gardens, and there's flowers that glow with their own light, and they make these heavenly tones, and they sing. And it's just...

taniastanly (08:36.243)
Mm-hmm.

David Suich (08:42.926)
a place filled with beauty and love and there's no fear there. There's nothing negative there. It's a perfect place and it's our nature. It's where we're from. There's a feeling of safety. You know, I'm going to be protected forever. There's a feeling of purposefulness, like everything I did on my life had a purpose. There's a feeling of connectedness. Oh, yes, we're not really separate. We're all one. We were just feeling the illusion of separateness down on earth.

And that's hard to describe from a human perspective. There's no time. Now that one I don't get. I've heard hundreds of people talk about there's no time in heaven. They say, well, here on earth, we have what happened yesterday, and then we have what's happening right now, and then what's going to happen tomorrow. But in heaven, it's all the same. I don't get that. But they say there's no time there. So you can be dead a minute or two and have a near-death experience, and your near-death experience felt like 100 years. So yeah, there's a lot of common elements, but those are the main ones.

taniastanly (09:36.169)
Hmm.

taniastanly (09:40.834)
Once I started doing these research into NDEs myself, I started trying to get those sort of spiritual experiences that they were talking about. Did you have any spiritual experience once you started diving into this whole concept? Is there anything that stands out to you?

David Suich (10:00.458)
Any spiritual experiences? Yeah, I had what you would call a spiritually transformative experience, STE. And it was just sort of a slow realization, a waking up of to who I really am. And probably the weirdest thing that started happening was, and one of my interviewees, it was a six hour interview, he told me, you're gonna start developing psychic abilities. And I laughed at him, you know, because I...

taniastanly (10:23.783)
Yes.

David Suich (10:25.356)
I'm an engineer. was like, I didn't believe in those things. I would make fun of people who thought they were psychic, right? I'd say, well, you know, there's a fine line between psychic and psychotic, and I think you're in the psychotic. So then it started happening. And now it's just a normal part of my life. I'll get on with a client and my spiritual counseling, and I sometimes get flashes of what's going on in their life, or they'll talk about a person and I'll see that person and how they are and that kind of thing.

It gets annoying sometimes. Like sometimes I'll sit down to watch a movie and then I'll see the whole movie like what's gonna happen before I watch it. But yeah, so some psychic stuff. But I mean, we're all psychic. It's just a matter of accessing those abilities. And I've had some really deep, beautiful meditations where I'd come out of them and I had this state of bliss that lasted for a day or two. And then a few times I've seen auras and things like that. But those are the only sort of...

taniastanly (11:01.257)
Ohhhh

taniastanly (11:15.688)
Hmm.

David Suich (11:22.542)
otherworldly experiences I've had as a result.

taniastanly (11:25.289)
When you were speaking about how you were going through a painful period in time, did you come out of it healed? How did that happen?

David Suich (11:35.886)
Well, no, it continued to get worse. So it started in 1999 and I had some surgeries to kind of relieve the pain in my hand and that helped a little, but it got worse and worse. And by 2016, I had to use a mobility scooter because I couldn't even walk for five or 10 minutes without feeling some pain. I had to use a mobility scooter just to go to the grocery store. And...

Then in 2019, I left California after being there 40 years. I got the tug from spirit to live in my 17 foot trailer and sell everything I had and go on the road for some time. And I did, I lived in it for two years. And I brought an ex-girlfriend that I had in Mexico and she went with me. And of course I ended up marrying her. And I think she was part of my healing because she's just an angel of a woman who's just really taught me a lot about unconditional love. And she's been the sweetest, most wonderful

person I could imagine to have in my life. I'm grateful for her every day in my life. And then I spent a lot more time in nature. I got the feeling that part of the reason I was sick is that I needed to be around nature more. So I left the big city and now I live on top of a mountain in the middle of the woods. I got some neighbors, I just can't see them. And that kind of slowed down. People are too busy, we're really pushed to move fast. And the other thing I did was...

taniastanly (12:38.087)
Mm.

David Suich (12:59.232)
I disconnected from the frequency of chaos and drama and suffering and negativity that kind of most of the people in the world are stuck in, they're watching the news and I don't watch the news. I don't pay attention to the rest of the world. I pay attention to my world, the people I come in contact with every day, you know, and my world is peaceful. There's no war in my world. There's no fires. There's no...

big disasters, my world's peaceful. And we artificially enlarge our world to the entire planet, which is something we couldn't have done. Most of human history, you never knew what was going on a hundred miles away. It wasn't till the newspapers and radio came along that we knew. And so, yeah, people are stressed out over that. So I think all of that was part of my healing.

taniastanly (13:43.431)
Hmm.

taniastanly (13:52.124)
you know, something that I keep thinking about is what would it be like if I moved to a place like you are on top of the mountain where there's nature, because I've not been in a place like that. What was it like for you? know we are deviating from near-death experiences and all that, how does it, like what were maybe like two big things that stands out to you when you moved from the city to the mountains?

David Suich (13:58.542)
Thank

David Suich (14:17.454)
The people here I really like that was the big thing, you know in the big city people tend to be very aggressive and negative You get you run into a lot of narcissism and here the people are just so nice You know, they'll neighbors come and they help you and they so many people came by and talked to me and then just the piece of nature to be outside and there isn't a Artificial sound that I can hear other than the birds, you know, just the sounds of nature

taniastanly (14:31.847)
Hmm.

David Suich (14:47.726)
And that's a wonderful part. was just kind of like a, I think I really needed that for my healing. And it's not for everybody. You my dad likes the big city and there's no right or wrong. Everybody has their own preferences, but I really do think it's important even for those in the big city to get out and to be in nature, know, turn your cell phone off, go for a walk in the park with a good friend or something like that, and spend some time just once a week, at least slowing down. Cause we really have been put on this treadmill.

of just go, go, go, produce, know, corporate world, be productive, and you gotta get off that treadmill every now and then, because we weren't meant to live like this. One of the things that's gonna happen in the new world that's coming is we're gonna slow down some and relax a little more, people are too stressed out, and loneliness has become an epidemic. And so we're gonna reconnect with community, with the family of humanity, and we're gonna slow down and.

taniastanly (15:32.486)
Mmm.

David Suich (15:43.436)
and take a breather and do things in a more relaxed way. We haven't learned that yet. We're kind going through the growing pains right now.

taniastanly (15:49.819)
I totally agree because, know, like last year, I'm totally new to the whole new earth, you know, all of these concepts. But once I got into it, it's like, it's so true. It's like suddenly everything makes sense. And that's what I was searching for. You know, that's how it felt like for me. And that's where the whole podcast started. It's like, I can't get enough of doing all the research that I'm doing. And last year, it's like, I'm getting this message over and over again to relax. And I realized that I don't know how to relax.

To me, I relaxation would probably be watching Netflix or trying to sleep. And it's not like I can, and I realized I can't even sleep. I have to doom scroll myself to sleep. Right? So I feel like, like what you said, the world wants to slow down, but we've got to learn how to slow down. When you've done all the, you know, you've spoken to so many near-death experiences and they often talk about probably predictions that happen, that's going to come up, right?

David Suich (16:32.622)
you

David Suich (16:48.75)
Mm-hmm.

taniastanly (16:48.857)
So what do you think, and you just briefly spoke about the new earth as well. Can you tell us a little bit more about what are some of the predictions, upcoming predictions that you see for maybe 2025 or in the next five years? I see like 2030 is like some big year, something's gonna happen in the next five years, but what's your take on that?

David Suich (17:08.472)
Well, unfortunately, I don't have any information from my research or near-death experiences that I've heard that talk about the near future. Now, I've heard quite a few, maybe a couple of dozen out of the 1200 plus testimonies that talked about the distant future. And it's important to note that whenever we talk about the future, we are only talking about the potential future.

And the reason for this is humanity has free will. So like if I'm driving 60 miles an hour north, you can say, well, an hour from now, he's going to be 60 miles north, but I can turn around or turn left or right or stop. And so there is no set future. And so any prediction, even by the best of psychics, isn't 100 % accurate. But if you want, we can talk about the distant future if you're interested in hearing that, or we can move on to the next question. up to you.

taniastanly (18:01.35)
Tell us about the distant future, maybe like a few points.

David Suich (18:04.97)
Okay, so basically what's going to happen is there was a potential future for a long time. And that was we were going to destroy ourselves, which not the end of the world where immortal human beings, it's just like you're playing a video game and your character dies. It's like, well, okay, I can just start another game. You know, we're immortal. So we would just come back. But Earth, humanity was going to destroy itself. Nostradamus, mothership in Revelation, that was going to happen. You know, the Armageddon and round about the late

taniastanly (18:32.261)
Mm.

David Suich (18:34.574)
80s, early 90s, somewhere in there. We passed a marker and we're not gonna destroy ourselves. So we're gonna become what's called an ascended species. And it doesn't mean we're gonna be in spirit form or we're gonna turn into pure energy, but we're basically gonna learn to get along with each other and live with each other and with nature and peace and harmony. So the first step is gonna be peace on earth. That's about 50 years away, might be a little sooner. The word on the street,

in the New Age spiritual community is that's accelerating, so it might come sooner, but we still have war, so we're probably gonna have another few decades at least of war. And then once we start cooperating, once we start recognizing that we're one human family, and we set aside the division and the judgment and the chaos and the fighting and all the negative stuff, the cutthroat competition and the greed and the narcissism and all the stuff that's become an epidemic in our society.

Once we set that aside and we start cooperating, then things will really get interesting. And about 150 years from now, there's going to be communities structured very similar to indigenous tribes, but with technology. And we'll use our technology in a limited way because we're going to find out that biology is the best technology. So there won't be cell phones. We'll communicate telepathically with each other. We're going to...

communicate with animals and plants and tell them where to like, tell the plants where to grow and create gardens just by talking with them. And the whole society is gonna be focused on teaching children about God, love, nature, science, know, who they are and that kind of thing. There won't be any doctors. People will learn how to heal themselves and when they're unable to, the community is gonna come around and through the power of prayer intention, heal that person. There'll be about,

taniastanly (20:09.572)
Mm.

David Suich (20:29.23)
Communities will be about 100, 150 people. And then we'll have spaceships that travel to other planets, but again, it'll be limited. We'll have around a half a billion people, so we'll learn to control our population via voluntary methods, not what the globalists want to do, which is exterminate population before we're ready. So we need a lot of people right now to make a shift. So we're in a great awakening, where we're waking up to a lot of truths.

taniastanly (20:47.81)
Yeah.

David Suich (20:57.356)
Like we're not separate from nature, we're not separate from each other. We're immortal. We're made of love. We're made of the same substance God's made of. We're all expressions of the benevolent creative source that we call God. And as we wake up to those truths, we're gonna get more responsible. Right now we're like kids who are misbehaving and are just learning how to not fight each other in the sandbox and just learning how to do things right. So there'll be, for instance, here in the USA, there's gonna be a new political party.

a young party that's going to do things differently, know, no more divisive politics, us against them, that kind of thing, you know, it's going to be like, well, we all kind of want the same things, you know, good jobs where we can make a meaningful contribution to humanity, safe streets, know, environmental measures to keep a clean world and that kind of thing. So yeah, it's new world of love is coming, but it's going to take time. You don't go from being a two-year-old child to a responsible 30-year-old adult overnight. It's just going to take time and we need to be patient.

taniastanly (21:29.827)
Hmm.

taniastanly (21:55.156)
In fact, they say that if it happened overnight, it would have been catastrophic. It's good that it takes time. So there's a very graceful change to it. You know, I've never had anyone speak about what's going to happen in the next few years in such a non-dualistic manner, like the way that you did. You just gave, I don't have to listen to any more people's predictions anymore. I've got the gist of what's going to happen. That's the best part about speaking to a researcher. Okay. So one of the biggest things that everybody has in their head is

David Suich (22:00.248)
Probably.

taniastanly (22:24.919)
What's going to happen after we die? Like, what is the first thing that happens? Is there going to be pain? How is it going to be like? So according to what happens, like what does the transition look like for most of the people?

David Suich (22:40.428)
Well, you know, when you leave your body, the word death, it makes it sound like it's the end. And it's not, it's like waking up from a dream. So that's what dying is like. And so if you have a painful death, I'm not talking about the process of dying, I'm talking about once you die and your spirit comes out of your body, it feels great. It's like taking off an old heavy winter coat that was really restrictive.

taniastanly (22:45.506)
Mm-hmm.

David Suich (23:06.112)
and you come out of your body and you feel young and energetic and alive again and your emotions are heightened and the clarity of your thought is much higher and you feel free and you like you don't have a blind spot back here, you have 360 degree vision and you can just float around and travel through walls and solid objects. So it's a much more real world. So like when you're dreaming, you think your dream world is real.

And when you wake up, you realize, that dream world was not real at all. This is the real world. Well, take one more really big step up in consciousness. And that's what dying is like. It's like going home. It's like I left the comfort of my home to go on a hike in the mountains for a month. And it was wonderful. And it was challenging.

And it was really difficult at time and I suffered and sometimes I was hungry and sometimes I was cold, but I wanted to do that, to grow and learn. And now I'm done. I accomplished it. And I had this amazing experience, even though it was tough, even though was miserable at times. And now I'm back home. I'm back in the comfort of home. And after a long rest, the way it works up there is you go, you look back at your early life and you say, geez, that was a really tough, difficult, miserable experience.

taniastanly (24:13.506)
Hmm.

David Suich (24:29.87)
but it was also amazing and it was also really fun at parts and I learned so much. I gotta do that again. And that's what we do. We're the daredevil souls who leave the comfort of heaven, who leave home. We go out, we have these adventures and then we go back home. And the reason we do all that is because consciousness learns through contrast. So if there isn't a small group of souls having these fear, love dualities and going out and learning and growing.

the love of heaven couldn't continue to exist and grow. So we do it because we love our families.

taniastanly (25:05.857)
It's beautiful. When you speak to all of these near-death experiences, right now, think more and more near-death experience stories are coming out. How do you differentiate between if this is a legitimate NDE story or if it's not? Or is there such a thing? How do know that this is what is called a near-death experience or out-of-body experience?

David Suich (25:32.236)
Okay, you're gonna have to, we're gonna have to edit this out because I need to take a bathroom break. So give me a minute and we'll come back and address that question. All right.

taniastanly (25:37.024)
no worries, take it.

taniastanly (25:43.057)
Okay, sure.

David Suich (27:07.566)
That was the first time in 80 some odd testimonies where I had to stop in the middle I'm just gonna see get my make sure I'm centered here

taniastanly (27:14.826)
that's okay.

David Suich (27:21.952)
Yeah, I'm pretty well centered, right? Okay, so how do we differentiate what is a real near-death experience and what might be a fake one? In all my years of research, I have only run across a few near-death experience testimonies where I didn't think they were real. And so there was a couple of maybe signs that all these NDEs have in common that...

taniastanly (27:23.902)
Yeah, you are.

David Suich (27:50.412)
you can tell they're legitimate. The first is the person has difficulty describing the experience. It's unworldly, unearthly. So what if you lived in a world of people who were blind? They don't even have a word for sight because that just doesn't exist. That sense just isn't in their consciousness. And all of sudden you're given vision. You're have a very hard time describing that to people, you know?

taniastanly (28:19.571)
Hmm.

David Suich (28:20.162)
How do you describe a rainbow to somebody who's been blind all their life? How do you describe a symphony to somebody who's been deaf since birth? Very difficult, so they struggle defining it. Another sign is it transforms their lives. So they come back completely different people. Whatever they were chasing in their life before, whether it was money or career or a hobby or a person, a partner or something like that, that takes a backseat.

and they become very focused on loving meaningful relationships and making a contribution to humanity. So if there's no big change in their life, that's a sign. I suppose another sign would be just sort of the way they are in the way they deal with people. They tend to be less judgmental, more altruistic, and they change careers.

They tend to have career changes. One policeman became a high school teacher. Another guy who was involved in organized crime became a counselor for young people who were in trouble with the law. And a billionaire gave up all his ties to finances and became a marriage and family counselor. So they have career changes. And these people just come back very different. And of course, they talk about the many things in heaven, like the colors.

the beauty of it all, the unconditional love. The ones I, the couple that I ran across were fake. They weren't.

David Suich (29:59.202)
They weren't promoting love. They were like fear-based. And there's no fear up there on the other side of veil. It's something that's generally created by our human consciousness down here on earth. Now you can create it sort of in the transition to the afterlife, but I don't believe it exists up there. So there's lots of different elements, but you know, I was a sales engineer for many years and I went through training on how to spot a lie. And so these people, they don't give any of the signs that they're lying. And a lot of them don't even want to talk about it.

taniastanly (30:01.759)
Hmm.

taniastanly (30:22.527)
you

David Suich (30:28.942)
because they think nobody will believe them. So there's some people that I was the first person or the only person they ever spoke to about their testimony because I asked them, you see a light? Did you go through a tunnel? Did you feel this unconditional love? Oh, you had that too? And I go, no, no, just, I'm researching it. And then, so they tell me. So why would you make up a lie when you're, when you, and that you don't tell anybody about? So yeah, the vast majority are true. And you can just tell, you can tell when somebody's being genuine usually.

taniastanly (30:28.967)
Hmm. Yeah.

taniastanly (30:45.32)
Hmm.

taniastanly (30:55.506)
Hmm. You know, I also saw like even I've only heard about near-death experiences that are very positive. But then I saw that, know, on YouTube now, if you check, there are actually videos that show about how I died and I saw hell. And those videos gain a lot of views as well. I didn't bother watching any of them, but it talks about them dying. then because I didn't want to, you know, look into what that is, what if it gets into my subconscious and I'm going to be afraid of death. So I don't want that.

David Suich (31:22.414)
That the hellish experiences you were saying? yeah, those are real. Yeah. Well, there's about maybe 3 % of testimonies I've heard they were hellish. And if a soul wants to, or if they die and they're in a very negative state, they can kind of get lost in the afterlife or have a negative experience. But it's not permanent. It's not a sentence. It's not a punishment. You know, it's not a religious thing. But in the afterlife, thoughts are things.

taniastanly (31:24.496)
Yeah, hellish experiences, yes. Is... it... is... Okay, what is that like?

David Suich (31:51.02)
So whatever you think can become reality. So they set up these things called quantum fields and whatever you wanna manifest, you can. So if you go into fear mode, you can definitely manifest and have a negative experience. And I've heard quite a few testimonies where they're out of their body and they're freaking out. They don't know what's going on. They're confused. Why is that thing on the ground that I'm seeing look like me and where am I? And they're going in the fear mode.

taniastanly (32:16.637)
Yeah.

David Suich (32:18.646)
and they have a very negative experience. And as soon as they say, well, I must be dead and there's nothing I can do about it, and they calm down, the experience becomes positive and they'll see the light and go towards a tunnel. So it's not a permanent sentence. It's not, it's just a temporary state, either chosen consciously or subconsciously. And in every single case, and I heard another near this.

taniastanly (32:40.989)
Hmm.

David Suich (32:43.15)
Experienced researchers say the same thing recently in every single case when these people who are having a negative experience call out to heaven for help They are always rescued 100 % of the time. So, you know if you die you find yourself on a negative NDE Just call out to heaven for help. They'll come and get you You know, just like a kid gets hurt, you know calls out mom. Yeah, heard and the mother comes running You know, they'll come and get us if we get lost or get you know into a negative spot

taniastanly (33:07.453)
You must have done research on people coming from very different religious backgrounds, right? yeah, okay. So is there any common themes that you have seen a certain religious, people from this religious background see this kind of a near-death experience? This is what happens. People from this background, they have a better near-death experience. I'm just asking. Is there such a thing?

David Suich (33:12.689)
yeah.

David Suich (33:31.438)
Sometimes, you know, heaven creates an environment to make us feel comfortable in the NDE. Sometimes they give us what we need, which can be unpleasant, but more often than not, they create an environment to make us feel comfortable. So if a person is Muslim, maybe they'll be met by Mohammed, or if they're Christian, Jesus will come and meet him. Or if they're an atheist and they're big fans of nature, they'll be brought into one of heaven's beautiful gardens. So they create an experience that makes us feel comfortable.

taniastanly (33:36.785)
Hmm. Hmm.

taniastanly (33:50.983)
Mmm.

David Suich (34:01.314)
but a lot of them, they have one religious view and then something completely different happens. A lot of atheists have met Jesus, for instance, who's kind of like the quarter of God that works as an advocate and a helper directly with human beings. But sometimes people even ask about religion, they say, well, what's the best religion? And they say, well, whatever one brings you closest to God. And even if you don't have a religion, they're okay with that. Even if you say God doesn't exist, they're okay with that.

taniastanly (34:09.373)
Yeah.

taniastanly (34:13.543)
Mm-hmm.

David Suich (34:30.67)
Heaven has no judgments about our judgments. Religion is just a tool. It's just a tool and you can use a different tool. And if it brings you closer to God to be a Christian or a Jew or a Buddhist or whatever, that's fine.

taniastanly (34:45.328)
Hmm. Interesting. What is your spirituality routine like right now? I mean, do you have such a thing? Because you've probably heard all of these and maybe you have something like your, do meditation in the morning, then I do some Santa fallow, anything like that.

David Suich (35:04.15)
No, I'm not very good at meditation. And my spiritual guides have told me that because I have to be very earth-based as a teacher so that I can relate to the people who are listening. So I'm not too good at meditation. But my routine more centers around when I interact with people on a daily basis. And so I try and be positive with my thoughts and words because thoughts are things. You know, they teach you that in heaven. There's this thing called law of attraction, know, whatever you focus your intention on, it tends to happen.

taniastanly (35:06.288)
Mm.

David Suich (35:34.222)
Well, that's not a new thing. You know, that's an old concept. We used to say, careful what you wish for, tends to happen. And then there's the old Latin saying, dentis fortuna inuvat, luck, fortune favors the bold. You know, if somebody's bold, it tends to like happen. They look like they're good luck. No, it's the same law of attraction. And even the ancient Aramaic word abracadabra used by magicians today, that wasn't the original meaning. It directly translates as I will create as I speak.

taniastanly (35:46.108)
Mmm.

David Suich (36:01.516)
So I'm careful with my thoughts and words. try and be positive. And especially when I go out and I'm interacting with others, even if I'm in a bad mood, I'll try and do my best to be kind and loving and compassionate, especially to those where my ego judges they don't deserve it. You my enemies. And your enemy can be your spouse, your child, your parent. It can be the driver who cuts you off on the freeway. And what's the natural human reaction? you jerk, you know, where I'm gonna get you back and get in front of you and break check you.

That's like, you gotta let that go. You gotta say, all right, you know what? He's having a bad day. I've been there. I'm just gonna let that go. One of the things that's really meaningful to heaven is when we're purposefully kind and compassionate to those who don't deserve it. So that's what I try and do. And if I know I'm gonna lose it, if I gotta call AT &T customer services in India, I know I'm gonna lose it. I will tell them, listen, if I lose my temper or I'm short with you or not very polite.

taniastanly (36:52.489)
hahahaha

David Suich (37:01.198)
please forgive me, it's got nothing to do with you. It's got to do with what your company has done. You're just doing your job. And you'd be amazed how well that works. you know, those people don't get offended when you're, you know, angry about something. So that's my routine is just to keep my thoughts and words and emotional intentions positive and to be the best version of myself I can be, to be the kindest, most compassionate person I am when I'm out in the world working with other people.

taniastanly (37:14.971)
Mm.

David Suich (37:30.99)
because that's what it's all about. You come back from heaven and some people say in their near-death experiences, say, what do do when I go back? What's my mission? Give me a goal. And they're like, doesn't matter what you do. Your mission is this, you're supposed to love your fellow human being. That's your mission. Because if you can love in this hostile environment, boy, we bring that to heaven, they learn from us. It's easy to be loving and kind. We're in the perfect environment of heaven. Put somebody in difficult situation.

where there's anger and hostility and chaos and suffering, can you still be loving? That's our challenge down here. So my routine is try and be loving and compassionate in this hostile environment. Sometimes I fail, but I'm doing the best I can. Yes.

taniastanly (38:04.699)
Hmm.

taniastanly (38:14.307)
Like everyone. You must not have researched just NDEs, right? Like because you're a researcher, you would have done a research on all the other things as well. Because in the last answer that you gave in the last two minutes, you just quoted phrases from multiple religions in one go. So yeah, you did. You did. You did it. So now maybe just I'm curious, what do you think?

David Suich (38:33.923)
I I don't know other religious too well.

taniastanly (38:42.682)
is the origin of our souls? Or, yeah, what do you think is the origin of our souls from your perspective? Yeah.

David Suich (38:48.13)
the origin of our souls.

David Suich (38:52.77)
That's a difficult one to describe. How do you describe the soup of creation? Imagine if God was a giant tree.

taniastanly (39:03.418)
Mm-hmm.

David Suich (39:05.312)
Now this tree is aware of itself. It can see itself just fine. And it's perfect just the way it is. Feels great and just fine the way it is. Well, how do you get to know yourself better? How do you grow and learn? So what the tree can do is it can say, I'm going to take one little part of my consciousness. I'm going to focus all my attention and I'm going to go into that one little leaf over there.

And then in that limited perspective and limited consciousness, I'm going to look back at the rest of me. So like what if you really wanted to get to know yourself well? What would you do? You would examine your life, the way you react to things, the way you think, the way you feel in various situations and you would say, well, I know myself pretty well. No. To know yourself perfectly, you would have to become every individual that ever interacts with you and see you from their perspective.

So a soul is actually a little facet of God that just goes into one perspective and looks back at the rest of God, that leaf looking back at the rest of the tree and saying, wow, that's me. And when you appreciate yourself or you limit your perspective, you can grow and change. And so the tree can grow. And so what a soul is, it's a little facet of God that takes on the illusion of separateness.

and has an individuality, even though it's all part of the same whole, and has experiences that are unique and individual from that little perspective. And by doing so, that is the engine of growth of creation. So these physical lives, that's exactly what we do. We limit our consciousness, we have amnesia, and then we have these earthly lives, then we go back to heaven. And we are the engine of growth of creation. That's how creation expands and grows and learns.

Now we're all the same, but we still have our individuality. Hard to describe the soup of creation, isn't it? Very difficult. Trying to think of an example I heard about this.

David Suich (41:24.086)
Okay, so you're recording this video and you're gonna upload it to YouTube. Now you're gonna have a copy of that video on your computer, right?

And this is going to be a very unique thing. We're talking, we're having a conversation, we're creating this video that's got a certain feel to it and has information that could be conveyed. Is it separate from the rest of the computer? Is that video separate from your computer? Sort of. It's got its own individuality. But when you turn off your computer, it's all just a bunch of ones and zeros on the hard drive. But anytime you want, you can take out that pattern. And it becomes this video of you and I.

taniastanly (41:51.833)
Hmm.

David Suich (42:03.074)
And it's the same with creation. We are one, we are part of God, and we're also individuals. Very difficult to understand from a human perspective. But we are more connected than separate. We are never really separated. We are all part of creation. Everything in existence is God expressing itself in all that is.

taniastanly (42:24.601)
Wow, you explained it so well, especially the part where you said that when you want to know who you are, you want to see it from other's perspectives. And that reminded me of the review. We talk about the review all the time, right? It makes sense. The life review, because you think that life review, I mean, was thinking life review must be like, that must be hell, that must be judgment day. But when you talk about it, like if I want to know who I am, I would...

David Suich (42:39.48)
Yes. The life review, uh-huh.

taniastanly (42:54.456)
Probably, and when I go through the life review, then I'll get to know, because at work we have the employee performance review where you get to ask the other colleague, hey, what do you think of me? Is there anything I can improve? So it's like all of this combined together is the life review. So you get to see what others think of you. Has there been something that stood out to you in a life review from all the research that you have done, any stories that stood out to you?

David Suich (43:02.723)
Yes.

David Suich (43:21.782)
Yes, I'm going to say two stories. It is so important to heaven the way we treat others. Every gentle act, every kind thought, and every unselfish deed is like a pillar of beauty to them. Now the first example I gave you, this woman worked in this home where they take care of the elderly.

taniastanly (43:22.976)
okay.

Okay.

David Suich (43:47.514)
and I think she was a nurse. And there was this one elderly woman who was just very touchy feely and if you went out, she couldn't eat by herself. She had to have somebody feeding her and she would give you all these sloppy wet kisses and it's like, the employees like, don't do that. And this woman, this nurse, she just, this woman's sweet, and she would kind of put up with her clinginess and all that. And when she got to have it in her life review, she was shown how important.

that is. Actually, I'm going give you three. I'm going to give you one about a cat. So it's not just how we treat people, it's how we treat animals and plants as well. So we'll do one of each, person, plant, and animal. Another guy, he had his life review. And you literally become everybody you've ever interacted with, including animals and sometimes even plants. So this guy had a farm, you know, all these animals on the farm, know, cows and chickens and goats and...

taniastanly (44:25.687)
Okay.

David Suich (44:44.558)
You know, they had dogs and cats and all that. And one day this starving cat shows up on the farm. You know, this is okay. We got a bunch of animals already, a bunch of cats and dogs, and we'll just feed it and it'll be part of the household. And they fed it and nursed it back to health. And it became a member of the family, you know, and they pet it and all that. He didn't think much of it. And he's having his life review. And boy, that was one of the crowning achievements of his life was helping that cat because from the cat's perspective, which he saw and experienced,

It knew nothing from its earliest memories. It knew nothing but being alone and struggling to survive and loneliness, not having a friend in the world. And now it was not doing well. And it knew that, ooh, that's a risk to go over there to that farm where all these other animals, I could be attacked, they might kill me, but I'm gonna die. This is my last chance. And so it went from just being loneliness and struggling to survive its whole life. And it takes this risk thinking they're probably gonna kill me.

or attack me, but I've got no choice and it gets accepted. And then it has a family and friends and it's never struggled. Now it's comfortable and loved. And it just made such a difference in that cat's life. And another one, I remember this one. Before my NDE research, I used to look at nature as like a resource, natural resource is something to be exploited. I didn't even see.

feel like plants were alive in the same way we are. They absolutely are. A tree's got a consciousness, a plant's got a consciousness, they even have feelings. Animals, of course, animals absolutely have feelings. Anyway, this guy's having his life review and he gets to a part where he's got this empty, half empty bottle of water and he don't want the rest of the water. So he's gonna walk over and throw it away. And there's this little plant growing in the city there.

taniastanly (46:14.668)
Yeah.

David Suich (46:36.448)
and it's a hot day and it's dry, it has rained for a while and he thinks, the plant's probably thirsty. I'll dump my water on that plant before I throw the bottle away. So goes over and he dumps the water on the plant. He had a stadium full of beings. He described it as a stadium full of beings watching his life review. And when he dumped the water on that plant, they erupted in a deafening cheer, like we would if our favorite team wins the game, know, the sports game.

taniastanly (47:03.67)
Mm.

David Suich (47:05.624)
kicking a ball through a poster, putting the ball through a hoop, that's kind of meaningless, but helping a little plant out, that's more meaningful. So it kind of seems ridiculous to us, but no, not to heaven, because that's a little part of creation. That's a part of God. And to show love and have compassion for it and empathy, it just means a lot to them. It grows the bubble of love of heaven. That's how creation grows. We're down here, we have a fear love duality, we have a choice, and...

every time we choose the path of love to show love to a plant, an animal, a human being, and to ourselves. And we choose that, that adds to the growth of creation. That's what we're doing down here. So those are my three examples.

taniastanly (47:48.244)
Wow, I just got goosebumps listening to them. Those were so beautiful examples. If that's the case, then what would be some of the ways in which we may be hurting others without knowing? What are some of those? Do you have any stories for that?

David Suich (48:05.132)
Will we harm others without knowing? Give me a second here.

taniastanly (48:07.027)
Yeah.

David Suich (48:19.054)
Yeah, I got one.

Daniel Brinkley, he was sort of a big tough guy, like six foot five. He was in the army, sharpshooter. And he gets ordered, I think this was the Vietnam War, I'm not sure. He gets ordered to go and assassinate this one officer, North Vietnamese officer.

And so him and a couple of his buddies, they go out there in the jungle and they set up and they're kind of meeting. A bunch of these officers are meeting in this building. Maybe 50 officers or so are meeting in this building, the North Korean officers. And they're trying to get a clean shot. Three days, nothing. They can't get a clean shot. So they decide, well, we'll just go down there tonight and we'll put explosive all around the building and we'll blow it up. And they did. And they were laughing about it. You know, we did it, you know.

It's like a success thing, they're all happy and they're leaving. So he goes through his life review and guess what? When you go through your life review, you literally become every person you ever interacted with or had an effect on. And there's something called the ripple effect. You're nice to one person because you were nice to them, they're a little bit of a person and they're nice to people around them. Well, the negative thing works out as well too. It has this ripple effect. So he felt the pain of all those...

taniastanly (49:14.783)
Yeah.

taniastanly (49:35.359)
Hmm.

David Suich (49:42.414)
Men who died, he felt the anguish of the wives when the army official comes and knocks on the door. I'm sorry, your husband died in an explosion. And then they're trying to struggle to survive. A single mom felt all that pain. The kids growing up without a dad felt all that pain. Yeah. We got to be really careful with what we do and say.

taniastanly (49:47.568)
Hmm... Hmm...

taniastanly (49:58.484)
Mm.

David Suich (50:12.206)
because it really means a lot. It's got a ripple effect. And the world's not gonna change by electing the perfect set of politicians or by throwing all the bad people in jail or by passing a bunch of laws to try and legislate utopia. The world's gonna change by one act of love and kindness at a time. You go out there every day, you do your best to be kind and loving and compassionate to others. That raises their vibration a little bit. They're in little better mood and they're gonna...

taniastanly (50:12.404)
Okay.

David Suich (50:39.594)
In turn go out and be nice to people around them. That's how the world's going to change. That's how we're going to have peace on earth. That's how we're going to towards this utopian paradise 150 years from now by one act of kindness at a time.

taniastanly (50:55.15)
that's such an impactful story. What happens to, have you researched on people who had a near-death experience by committing suicides? What happens to them?

David Suich (51:05.155)
Yes.

David Suich (51:09.514)
Well, we talked about negative experiences. Not all suicides have negative near-death experiences, but suicides tend to be more likely to have a negative experience. Now, some of them, no, they're brought to heaven, but others have very negative experiences and they're things like, this what you really want? And they're kind of isolated or...

They realize, they all say this, they say, I knew I took a bad situation and made it worse. I took my bad situation and made it 10 times worse. And then sometimes a spirit or God or somebody will say, you are not to decide when to take your life. So there's no judgment, but they make it clear it's not a good thing. So.

David Suich (52:10.574)
So in heaven, you have this pre-earth planning where you choose a life and you choose your major challenges and souls sometimes will want to take on a lot of tough challenges. I want to be disabled. I want to have an abusive father. I want to have a difficult life where I struggle. I want to be homeless. The bigger the challenge, the faster you learn. Now it's unpleasant, but if you want to learn faster, there's going to be more trauma and more difficulties, but you learn fast.

or you can go slower. Well, any negative experience that you can think of, even if it's something like being a child who's physically abused, even the most horrible experiences you can think of can be used as a learning experience and souls will choose to have those experiences to learn and grow. The one exception is suicide. It is never beneficial to commit suicide. It's always a step back in our emotional

and spiritual development. It's like if you've got to graduate from the university and you're taking this class and you drop out halfway through, well, now you're going to have to take the class again. And it devastates family and friends and it just makes more work for you. So it's not a good thing. So, you I was in a place in my life where I was clinically depressed and I wanted my life to end. And the only reason I didn't end it, because I knew that

taniastanly (53:23.826)
Hmm.

taniastanly (53:35.068)
Yeah.

David Suich (53:38.446)
from the minor experience research, I knew that this wasn't going to be a good thing. It wasn't going to help. So, had I seen what was coming, my good life today, where I have a lot of joy and peace and a wonderful wife and a nice home and my body healed, if I saw what was coming, I would have never contemplated it. So, if somebody out there is struggling with that, who's listening to this right now, don't think that just because you're struggling, you're failing, you're not. And no matter what happens, never give up on life.

You're gonna go home someday naturally and you're gonna be glad you stuck it out. And I know it's tough down here. I've been there waking up every day and saying, I just want this to end. I can't take anymore. I'm so depressed. I'm so alone. Nothing's gonna change. Well, it is gonna change. And even if you've chosen a life that's difficult your whole life down here and it's not gonna change until you die naturally, stick it out. Hang in there. And if you gotta get help, get help. You know, don't give up on life.

There's people that love you and care about you, if not here in this world in the afterlife, and you're loved more than you can know. You're never alone. You might feel like you're alone, but you're not. So hang in there if you're thinking about that.

taniastanly (54:53.67)
Let that message stay there and give moment of silence for that because I think that's a very important message. A lot of people are going through struggles right now and it might seem like it hits the end of the world, but the message that David has said, I think that's beautiful. It's amazing. Thank you, David, for that message. So David, is there a difference between an out of body experience and a near death experience? Do you know, have you come across anything like that?

David Suich (55:23.212)
Yeah, they're different. Out-of-body experiences, you don't get the quite feelings of love and the connection to the afterlife and all those beautiful things. But many people have had out-of-body experiences. My understanding is that when you go to sleep at night, every night your soul leaves your body and goes to heaven and there's some communication and they might give you some help. That's why people say, well, I'm going to sleep on this because you actually get help with your decisions at night. And then some people are aware.

of their body experiences and some people can do it involuntary or voluntarily. They can just lie down and come out of their body and travel. I have never been able to do it, but I have. know I've done it involuntarily because when I was younger, I used to be lying in bed when I was like half asleep. I felt like I was falling and I would slam into my bed and wake up. Well, that was my soul starting to float above my body. I don't know if anybody's had that experience. If you have, put it in the comments. I'd be kind of interested to know how many people have that experience. But yeah, we all have them.

It's just that some people can do it voluntarily and some or some remember them. And so they can kind of astral travel, go to different places and.

taniastanly (56:29.531)
Hmm, that's interesting. Out of all of these stories that you've heard, what are some of those favorite stories of yours that's moved you?

David Suich (56:39.36)
I liked Howard Storm's story. He was my favorite story, the first one I ever heard. Kathy Jordan, her story that she talks about in A Birth Called Death. I really liked that one. And there's so many good stories. mentioned, think, Mickey Robinson. He was in a plane crash and one side of his face is all burned and he goes around giving talks and he talked about how it transformed his life. there's so many wonderful stories out there.

taniastanly (56:42.161)
Hmm.

David Suich (57:03.734)
Even some of the Hollywood actors and actresses, Kurt Russell, Peter Sellers had near-death experiences. And I think Shirley MacLaine had a spiritual awakening and she even made a documentary that's on YouTube called Out on the Limb, where she talks about the Pleiadians and all that. And so yeah, those are my favorite testimonies. Howard Storm and Cathy Geordi are two of my favorites.

taniastanly (57:20.209)
Hmm.

taniastanly (57:28.273)
Talking about the Pleiadians, what's been your research? What's come out of extraterrestrial beings or all of the Pleiadians and Arcturians and all of that? What's come out about them?

David Suich (57:45.49)
Interesting you mentioned the Octurians because Pleiadians are our cosmic parents. They kind of are watching over us and taking care of us and the Octurians are our cosmic grandparents. They're the parents of the Pleiadians. So when you become an ascended species and you stop fighting each other and you create the little utopian paradise, your job becomes to see life on another planet and to help them. Just like when you're child, you grow up. And then when you're grown up, your job is to have children and you kind of help them out. So...

taniastanly (57:57.02)
okay.

David Suich (58:12.43)
The universe is full of life. In this galaxy, about 95 % of the species are benevolent or neutral, and about 5 % are misbehaving, but they're kept in check by the Galactic Federation. It's just sort of this group of benevolent beings that kind of watch over things. They're here. They're not going to show up and land a spaceship on the White House lawn that's going to cause a panic, know, crash world markets.

taniastanly (58:21.392)
Mm-hmm.

David Suich (58:36.558)
They're doing what they're doing now. You show up slowly, you know, more and more appearances here and there. And then when everybody's seen them all the time and they're comfortable with it, you know, then they'll show up. But they're not going to give us all this technology, you know, just like you don't give a knife to a two year old, he's going to cut himself with it. You know, you don't give explosives to a five year old on the 4th of July, he's going to blow his hand off. So, you know, they're not going to share all the technology, but they're going to help us out. And so they're going to

taniastanly (58:48.4)
Mm.

taniastanly (59:03.343)
Hmm.

David Suich (59:05.866)
appear more and more and more. And there's about a dozen species visiting us on a regular basis. And there's a couple hundred that come by every now and then. But, you know, we're not ready for public first contact, you know, because we're too barbaric still. But we're growing up fast. So it's like if you were in a new neighborhood and the neighbors came around, say, hey, you see that guy over there? He spends half his money on weapons and guns and military gear and all that. And if you knock on his front door,

taniastanly (59:35.198)
Mm.

David Suich (59:35.79)
Well, he might not open the door pointing the gun at your face, but he's going to have it right there at his side, ready to go. Okay, he didn't trust you because he's predicting his mistrust onto you, you know, which you had not got his door. Now you probably observe him from afar, right? Well, who did I just describe by that neighbor? I just described the United States government, half their money in military, spaceship landed on the White House lawn. You think they'd come out with flowers and hugs and handshakes? No, there'd be a military response. They'd be ready with the guns. So they're not going to show up yet.

taniastanly (59:41.37)
Mm.

taniastanly (59:48.431)
Yeah.

taniastanly (59:54.167)
Hmm.

David Suich (01:00:05.826)
but they're gonna do it on an individual basis. you know, they're gonna turn their shielding off so we can see them. A lot of them have shielding, so you can't see them. I if you see a Pleiadian ship, it's because they wanted you to see it. They got camouflage. Our military has good camouflage right now. You go on YouTube, military camouflage, you'll see some pretty good stuff. That's 200 years of technology. They've had several million years. So yeah, they're gonna show up little by little and eventually they'll make themselves known and they're gonna want us to be a productive member of the Galactic community.

taniastanly (01:00:19.704)
Hmm.

David Suich (01:00:36.214)
That's where this is going towards. So they're kind of trying to keep us from blowing ourselves up while we mature. Just like a parent tries to keep the two kids from killing each other in a fight. Until they're old enough to stop fighting, yeah.

taniastanly (01:00:46.745)
Have you met any of them?

Have you met them? Have you seen the space ships or anything?

David Suich (01:00:55.402)
No, no, but I know I was Pleiadian in another lifetime. So very first word I spoke was bata. And my parents would say, well, what does that mean? And I would just repeat it. And then I just kind of gave that up and started talking normally like a kid. And I just forgot about it. And then when I started all this stuff and learned about the Pleiadians, I was watching this special and they were saying, now so-and-so met this teacher and teacher in Pleiadian is bata.

taniastanly (01:01:00.367)
Okay.

David Suich (01:01:25.132)
Now this is after one of my interviewees told me, you're a teacher. Well, I was an engineer. I was like, I'm a teacher. So here I am later teaching. Yeah, I had a life on the Pleiades and I was called Bata. That's the first word I ever spoke. And then the weird thing about it was when I was watching this whole documentary, I'm like, well, wait a minute. I was always fascinated with this one little star system in the sky. I would call it the old lady in the rocking chair. And I was like, I type it on the internet.

taniastanly (01:01:37.614)
No.

David Suich (01:01:53.154)
the Pleiades, it was that star system that I would always look for. Even to adulthood, I would always look for that little star system. And I didn't know why, I never thought about it. It's just like, there's my little star system I always look for. Subconsciously, I knew I lived there once. So yeah, I used to be Pleiade and many human beings, you don't start off on Earth. You don't start having a life on Earth. It's the most difficult planet in this whole galaxy to incarnate into. It's the third most difficult in the universe.

taniastanly (01:02:03.562)
my god.

taniastanly (01:02:11.054)
Mmm. Mmm.

David Suich (01:02:21.262)
You don't take a pill and learn how to walk and send them on the Appalachian Trail for six months. He's going to die. You know, so you got to build up to it. So our first lives are on planets where they're kind of living in utopian paradises and you get used to physical lives. And then you go more and more and more. Well, if you add up all the lifetimes on Earth and all the other planets, the average human being is more than a million years old. So if you're watching this, you've done this before. Now you're like an expert. You're like climbing Mount Everest, you know.

taniastanly (01:02:21.279)
Eww.

taniastanly (01:02:49.678)
Cheers.

David Suich (01:02:50.178)
You're like a daredevil soul taking on the biggest challenge. Yeah, so if you're here, you're doing great.

taniastanly (01:02:56.442)
my goodness, that's so fascinating. So a little bit, I'm just a little bit more curious about the Pleiadian life. Do you remember what it was like? Like, do you remember what the planet or nothing? You didn't do any QHT sessions, this past life? No, nothing like that.

David Suich (01:03:13.334)
Now, but I've been told by psychics that I was Pleiadian, things like that. I got confirmation of it and things like that. I don't have a memory of it. Yeah. That's what was Pleiadian. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know.

taniastanly (01:03:18.029)
Hmm.

Interesting.

Elon Musk. Tesla, okay, okay, Tesla, fine. No, Nikola Tesla. Yeah.

David Suich (01:03:29.868)
No, no, not Elon Musk, Nikola Tesla. He came up with the AC motor, all-playing current, the radio, all these inventions. He predicted cell phones 100 years ago or whatever he was around. He said, one day you're going to have these handheld things, communicate with anybody in the world. Yeah, he was Pleiadian. So he came here to bring electricity to us and he did his job and he'll probably come back.

taniastanly (01:03:40.585)
Mmm.

taniastanly (01:03:47.661)
Interesting.

taniastanly (01:03:57.119)
love it. Okay, so David, what are some of these projects that you're working on?

David Suich (01:04:03.352)
Well, right now I'm volunteering on the board of the directors of the Ascension Institute. So we're planning a Peru trip to visit megalithic structures. And I'm contributing to a couple of books that we have out to working on a docu-series. And I'm working on a second book called The New World of Love. And that's pretty much it. I do my spiritual counseling. I still do my power plant consulting on the side. I was a power plant engineer. for those of you who aren't in spiritual work like our host and myself, you don't.

taniastanly (01:04:31.534)
We have to.

David Suich (01:04:32.046)
There's not much money doing it. So most of us kind of have a side job, you know. Sometimes when I talk about my book, people write in the comments, he's just talking about this for money. It's like, I wish I would talk about it for money. If I took all the money I've made and I divide it by the hours I put into it, it's like less than minimum wage. So yeah, I do power planking, helping to bring in some income for my wife and I. But yeah, that's the things I'm working on.

taniastanly (01:04:50.122)
Yeah.

taniastanly (01:04:56.353)
The Ascension Institute, that's interesting. What's that about? Okay, so what is that about?

David Suich (01:04:58.69)
The Ascension Institute, yeah.

Well, it's just going to be similar to things like IAN's International Association of New Death Experience Studies or ENDERF or Spiritual Awakens International. So it's one of many organizations that's going to be helping raise the consciousness of humanity. Talk about all the same things you talk about on your channel. And I just heard recently from a channeler that...

taniastanly (01:05:09.282)
Hmm.

David Suich (01:05:27.512)
people who have channels like yours, there's lots of these channels out there now. There wasn't back in 2007 when I first clicked on that YouTube video. You guys are a big part of bringing this new consciousness and this new way of doing things and new way of thinking and these new revelations, these new truths into the consciousness of humanity. You're a big part of this raising of consciousness and of the great awakening. So we're all contributing in our own way.

taniastanly (01:05:31.297)
Mmm.

David Suich (01:05:53.098)
And the Ascension Institute is just one of many that's working in this big team, along with you and many others.

taniastanly (01:05:59.851)
I mean, this is where all the happening stuff is happening. It's like the cool kids club. Like, why wouldn't I be a part of that? It's like the best thing that I'm part of. So I just wanted to be a part of this elite club. It's amazing.

David Suich (01:06:12.46)
Yeah, it's more like a teacher. So it's the older souls who are doing this. the way it's going to work is the older souls are kind of bringing the information in. And then when the young generation comes in, they're going to take all this information we're giving them, and they're going to make the world a better place. So we're kind of bringing the information, and then the workers are going to come in and make the changes, the next generation that's coming in. So we're just kind of acting as a guide and a teacher.

There's a lot of confusing information out there in the world and there's a great deal of manipulation and fear mongering and other things. So we're kind of the voice of reason telling the children to calm down. It's gonna be okay and look at all the things you can do. You can do anything you want. So we're kind of like the adults in the room at the moment.

taniastanly (01:06:56.363)
That's good. Is there anything like this for the channelers? Like just for channelers to make it more legit?

David Suich (01:07:05.903)
I'm sorry, what's the question again about channelers?

taniastanly (01:07:08.179)
Yeah, are there institutions, because you know, we have these sort of certifications we give for yoga trainers. So something that legitimizes what they're doing. Do we have something like that, like an institution or something for the channelers, people who are channeling now all of these other beings and so on?

David Suich (01:07:27.224)
There might be, I don't know, but there are so many channelers now, it's becoming an accepted thing these days, channeling. I if you channeled 50 years ago, the Judeo-Christian community would call you demon possessed. And now we're kind of realizing, no, this is a real thing. And that's the way you communicate across the vast distances of space. It's mind to mind communication via channeling, because radio waves and light waves are too slow. The speed of light is too slow. takes...

taniastanly (01:07:29.323)
Hmm.

taniastanly (01:07:34.048)
Yeah.

taniastanly (01:07:40.523)
Agreed.

taniastanly (01:07:54.635)
Mm.

David Suich (01:07:56.426)
nine minutes just to get from Earth to the Sun. We'll think about going to another planet 50 light years away, it's going to take 50 years just to get a message. So it's this mind-to-mind communication, channeling, and it's becoming an accepted thing. But yeah, there's probably institutions out there who are teaching it or certifying it, I just don't know.

taniastanly (01:08:14.261)
Hmm, it's true. It's becoming a lot more common now. And I can't believe that I came across this just like a year back. At that time, I was like, my God, what's this? This must be like some magical thing. And now it's become so common for me. I mean, it's just become like a normal thing. Chandling? Normal.

David Suich (01:08:29.198)
Yeah, that's normal to me. My favorite channelers are Cryon, K-R-Y-O-O-N. I also like Bashar, and there's a few Pleiadian channelers that I listen to that I really like. channeling often, depending on how good the channeler is, the message can be contaminated with the personal beliefs and perspectives of the human being channeling. The pure channelers like Cryon, the message is pretty pure, but others, it's not so...

taniastanly (01:08:34.78)
yeah, crying.

taniastanly (01:08:45.419)
Mm.

David Suich (01:08:58.112)
If you're listening to a channeler, make sure you say to yourself, how do I feel listening to this channeler? Is it putting me into fear or is it calming me? Is this a message of love or a message of division and fear? And if it's fear-based or if it's making you uncomfortable, turn it off. Do not listen to that channeler. Stick with the ones that speak to your heart. That's my advice with channeling.

taniastanly (01:09:20.715)
Beautiful. And the documentary that you're speaking about, when is that coming out?

David Suich (01:09:25.902)
Oh, I can't remember when they're planning that for. It might be end of this year, but I can't remember off the top of my head.

taniastanly (01:09:31.647)
This would come out on Netflix.

David Suich (01:09:33.686)
It's gonna be a docu-series we're gonna be submitting to Amazon Gaia, I think. And I'm contributing a chapter for the companion book that's gonna go with the docu-series. So I'm not running that there's a couple of members that are really kind of doing all the hard work. I'm just kind of making a few contributions. So.

taniastanly (01:09:37.924)
Gaia.

taniastanly (01:09:43.912)
my gosh.

taniastanly (01:09:51.782)
Amazing, amazing. So we have something called the Cosmic Close at the end of our episode, which is where I ask two questions. And the first one is, how may we enjoy lasting peace and happiness?

David Suich (01:10:05.57)
How may we enjoy lasting peace and happiness? That's a good one.

taniastanly (01:10:07.272)
Mmm.

David Suich (01:10:12.63)
You know, the old analogy, you want to see the glass is half empty or half full. Lasting peace and happiness is all about our perspective. It's all about the things we focus on. There was this guy, he used to make these little model trains and he's got a little museum in Ohio. I think his name was Mooney, they called him, but he would spend a couple of years designing these little model trains.

taniastanly (01:10:18.277)
haha

David Suich (01:10:39.042)
and very detailed and they were so good and so realistic. So one day he decides to make this model train that's got a little crank up mechanism with the springs so that it would move along the track, you know, because all this model trains were just stationary. And he spends a year or two of his life, I don't know how long it was, but it a long time making this model train and he finally finishes it. And he's going to demonstrate to his friends and family, you know, celebration of I finally finished this big project and the little regulator that that lets the energy out slowly broke.

taniastanly (01:10:48.266)
Mm-hmm.

David Suich (01:11:08.32)
And so all the spring tension got released at once and the train went racing down the track and went off the track and smashed into the wall in a million pieces. And as the friends and family were sitting there with their trials open, he starts laughing and they said, Noonie, why are you laughing? And he says, I had my first train wreck, you know? And that's the way you gotta deal with life. You do your best every day to be kind and compassionate to yourself and others, very important to yourself.

taniastanly (01:11:16.517)
taniastanly (01:11:27.209)
You

David Suich (01:11:34.794)
And then when the bad things happen, just do your best to smile and get through it. That's where I get challenged. I struggle with the bad times when things aren't going right. But do your best to smile, to laugh about it, and to get through it. And just be your best that you can be. And that's how it changes the world. Be the best version of yourself you can be. And when you screw up, don't give yourself a hard time. This is a really difficult environment to be in. Even Jesus got mad.

taniastanly (01:12:03.625)
Yeah, he did.

David Suich (01:12:04.698)
He cursed the tree that withered, he went to the temple and turned about, he got mad. He would say, oh, how long do I have to deal with these people? If the core of God who came down here got frustrated, I mean, of course we're gonna screw up, you know? Every parent knows that their child is gonna make a lot of mistakes. So when you make a mistake, cut yourself some slack, you know, that's just the way we are. You're perfect in the heavenly realm, but in this game, you're gonna make mistakes. And if you didn't, well, it would ruin the game.

taniastanly (01:12:09.895)
haha

taniastanly (01:12:18.089)
You

David Suich (01:12:33.612)
So it's okay to screw up and it's okay to have bad days and it's okay to be bad. And it's okay to treat others cruelly. Just do your best, I would say, to learn from it. Yeah.

taniastanly (01:12:45.053)
I love that. The second question is, what do you think is the nature of our reality?

David Suich (01:12:52.802)
The nature of our reality is a multi-dimensional quantum energy that we call love. It is the fabric of the universe. It's the glue that holds the universe together. It's the substance that expresses itself in all that is. We are love. At the core of every human being, even the worst of the worst is the love of creation in the space that we think is empty.

between the nucleus and the electrons of an atom is the love of God. It is everywhere and in everything. And its nature is immortal and its nature is perfection. You wouldn't think looking around the world today, but this is part of a perfect game that we're playing.

taniastanly (01:13:37.314)
I that. I have one more question though. What are some of your favorite books that's changed your life? Because you must have read a lot,

David Suich (01:13:41.048)
Mm-hmm.

David Suich (01:13:47.094)
Yeah, I've read maybe 40 or 50 books on near-death experiences. I think I mentioned Kathy Jordan, The Birth Called Death. My favorite is My Descent Into Death by Howard Storm.

taniastanly (01:13:57.062)
Doesn't have to be a near-death experience, any other kind of books also. Like something else which is not a near-death, yeah.

David Suich (01:14:01.07)
Oh, any other kind of books? Wow, there are so many good books. I'll tell you what, why don't you edit this part out because I've got a memory where I can hide my Easter eggs, right? So I'm gonna take a look at my books so I can give some actual good examples for the... Take a look at my library.

taniastanly (01:14:08.88)
Yeah. Okay.

taniastanly (01:14:22.605)
okay, okay.

David Suich (01:14:26.196)
Alrighty. Maybe I can hold them up for the listener.

taniastanly (01:14:29.837)
You're cheating on the interview.

David Suich (01:14:32.142)
We can edit, so this is a good thing. Okay, my walk in heaven. this it? Let's see. 90 minutes in heaven, that was a good one.

David Suich (01:15:01.067)
Okay

David Suich (01:15:10.542)
is gonna come out mirrored.

taniastanly (01:15:13.136)
No, no, it comes up straight. Yeah.

David Suich (01:15:15.266)
Comes out straight, vertical def, okay.

David Suich (01:15:22.136)
So yeah, some of my favorite books are The Birth Called Death by Kathy Jordan, My Descent into Death by Howard Storm, that doesn't have a cover on it. 90 Minutes in Heaven, that's a great book by Don Piper, he was a pastor who died. And this is good if you're struggling with physical stuff. It talks about his recovery, which was very difficult. Life After Life by Raymond Moody, I actually read this book when I was, I think 15 years old, but I kind of dismissed it and I set it aside.

taniastanly (01:15:37.074)
Hmm.

David Suich (01:15:52.012)
And of course, if you want to support me, this is my book. This is the second edition, God Took My Clothes. So those are some of my favorite books about spiritual outing near death experiences. what's the one? We're gonna edit this out again, but I've heard this is very good. I haven't started reading it yet.

taniastanly (01:16:07.336)
Okay.

David Suich (01:16:22.67)
Yeah, so one that I have heard that is supposed to be really good is A Course in Miracles. So I've got that one and I'm gonna be working through that one next. So those are some of my favorite books. And there's some good great documentaries out there as well. And it's not really near-death experience documentary, but there is a movie called I Am by Tom Shadyak, which...

taniastanly (01:16:29.062)
Mmm.

taniastanly (01:16:34.522)
Love that.

taniastanly (01:16:38.246)
Mm-hmm.

David Suich (01:16:48.12)
sort of encompasses these ideas we've been talking about, even though it's not really from a spiritual perspective, he kind of talks about all that stuff. There's one called...

David Suich (01:17:02.946)
There's a movie called Discover the Gift.

trying to think of some others here. I'm gonna cheat again. I don't know how much of this you wanna edit out, but I think today people like readers, readership is going down and movies are going up. So let me check spiritual movies here.

taniastanly (01:17:20.942)
Yeah, movies are great to get the message across also. You actually have such good memory power. You remembered all of the people that you were speaking about, know, like Cathy, like I can't remember things the way that you, Cathy Jordan, like you just mentioned a bunch of names so fast and you remember the books. I can't remember things like that that fast. So that's pretty good.

David Suich (01:17:34.69)
Kathy Jordan.

David Suich (01:17:50.094)
crossing over a new beginning.

David Suich (01:17:55.534)
Okay, so I really liked Beyond Our Differences. And there is a video on YouTube called Crossing Over New Beginnings. And that was put out, I think, in 2011, right before this hysteria and fear of 2012 was coming along. And that kind of talks about what happened in 2012, which was us crossing a boundary or a marker or going into a new paradigm.

So for thousands of years, the paradigm was we're gonna destroy ourselves and really what's happening, the Mayan calendar is saying we're gonna destroy ourselves. No, they were talking about the end of an age, the end of what is gonna be known in the future here on earth as the barbaric age where we fought each other, where we were ignorant, where we were cutthroat competition and screwing each other over and we weren't helping those who were in need.

because we didn't realize that we're all connected. And that's a very good movie that talks about the positive spin on this new age that's coming in. Yeah, those are all very good.

taniastanly (01:19:02.502)
I love that. I'm definitely going to watch that one. David, thank you so much for the work that you do. Please can you tell us where we can find you?

David Suich (01:19:12.878)
Well, my email and some information about my work is at Godtookmyclothes.com. And there is a preview to the copy of my book. So you can download the first couple of chapters, see if it's the kind of thing you're interested in. It's also in French and Spanish. And then there's a link at Godtookmyclothes.com to my spiritual counseling. And if you have financial difficulties, you send me an email. I have a program discount for those with financial hardship.

And of course, if you don't want to spend any money at all at the time of this recording, I am still answering all emails. I answer with a voice recording because I just get too many emails, but you can send me dozens and dozens of emails. I've got people that have sent me emails and I've had hours of answers and that's completely free.

taniastanly (01:20:07.823)
David, what an honor to have the teacher Bataa, right, from the Pleiadian Consulate coming here on the planet Earth to teach us these wonderful concepts, to teach us what is the purpose of living here, what to expect after life. Thank you so much, David, for the work that you do and for coming on the Celestiball podcast. Thank you.

David Suich (01:20:29.186)
Thank you, Tanya. It was a pleasure being on your show.